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Old 01-22-2009, 02:49 AM   #151
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It was definitely an enjoyable episode. I loved Hurley's synopsis of everything.

One thought I had near the very beginning of the episode when you see the little baby - I was wondering if that might possibly be Miles. I can't remember any of his back story, except the whole "Ghostbuster" thing, so I could be totally off. That was just my first thought when I saw the baby.

I'm curious to see what led up to Daniel being in the Orchid while it was being built.

Lots of stuff to think about!
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Old 01-22-2009, 02:50 AM   #152
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Mrs. Hawking seems to be some sort of course correcter, or I guess you can call her Sister Fate. I also don't think it's a huge coincidence that she's named Hawking.
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Old 01-22-2009, 02:54 AM   #153
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It was definitely an enjoyable episode. I loved Hurley's synopsis of everything.
I loved Hurley tonight. My favourite line of the night was when he told Sayid in the van, "Dude, maybe if you'd eat more comfort food, you wouldn't have to kill so many people."

My second favourite line was Hurley's Mom: "Why is there a dead Pakistani on my couch?"

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Old 01-22-2009, 02:56 AM   #154
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Even if we've seen Hawking before, I'm still predicting she's Faraday's mother as well.
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Old 01-22-2009, 03:04 AM   #155
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If I were going with a somebody's mother theory (and I really do hate mother theories so I hope it doesn't go in that direction), I would think Charlotte before Faraday although I'm not sure why, other than the fact that it's been made clear that she is looking for where she was born. I was kind of hoping that she was a Dharma kid, though. I once even wondered if she was Annie, Ben's little friend with the wooden dolls.
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I read a theory somewhere that Faraday, Miles, and Charlotte were all born there, which is why they were recruited by Abbadon. They suggested that Dr. Candle's baby that was shown at the beginning of this episode is actually infant Miles.
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That interview I posted gives a good reason for the show's change in structure.



And I love that they actually did kill the random background guy who suddenly has a bunch of lines for no reason. By playing into the cliche, they were kind of winking along with it, especially in the way he went out.
Thanks, I'll go back and read it. I've been avoiding this thread till tonight in case spoilers inadvertently got posted.

I noted that the redshirt guy was indeed wearing a red shirt, and kind of chuckled to myself.

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It's my belief that, for reasons yet to be disclosed, Faraday's mother is Charlotte's constant, thus being able to "cure" her of the sickness.
Good theory, I like it.

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All I know is that the crazy DaVinci Code lady is Ms. Hawking who we first met in season three, in the episode Flashes Before Your Eyes.

I knew it was her as soon as I saw the white bun.

As of right now, I have no theory on her.
Nice catch, I never would have remembered that in a thousand years! And I haven't had a chance to check out lostpedia yet tonight to see what else I may not have picked up on in this episode. That's my post-Lost watching ritual. I've missed it.


The lady from the butcher's shop - any idea who she is? Do we know her? Is she another one lost in the part of my mind where I file seemingly insignificant Lost characters?
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Nice catch, I never would have remembered that in a thousand years!
I watch Lost A LOT.



As for the lady in the butcher shop, I don't believe we've seen her before.
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I read a theory somewhere that Faraday, Miles, and Charlotte were all born there, which is why they were recruited by Abbadon. They suggested that Dr. Candle's baby that was shown at the beginning of this episode is actually infant Miles.
I suppose we can include Naomi in this category as well.

With the Losties moving through time, there is no doubt that we'll see the origins of the Black Rock, as well as the four-toed statue, which excites me to no end.


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The lady from the butcher's shop - any idea who she is? Do we know her? Is she another one lost in the part of my mind where I file seemingly insignificant Lost characters?
Her name is Jill, but I have no idea who she is.
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Thank you - Jill. I couldn't remember.

According to Lostpedia, this was her first appearance.

I don't trust the writers for anything - we were supposed to learn about the statue in season four. We were also supposed to get a Rousseau flashback!
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Thank you - Jill. I couldn't remember.

According to Lostpedia, this was her first appearance.

I don't trust the writers for anything - we were supposed to learn about the statue in season four. We were also supposed to get a Rousseau flashback!
Yes, but now with the Losties moving through various points in the Island's time, we'll definitely bump into Rousseau at some point. I mean, we got to see Yemi's plane crash, which I thought was cool.

And the truncated season due to the writer's strike forced certain storylines to be condensed, put off until Season 5, or shelved completely.
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Well the Rousseau flashback was probably lost due to the writer's strike. Lindeloff mentioned that some stuff with her and the daughter were casualties of losing a few episodes.

Also, I don't know if I'd include Naomi in the group of people that were born on the island. She was hired as more of a mercenary to get them there safely, just as Lapidus was hired because he's a pilot. Those three are the ones that seem to have some kind of strange connection, or in Miles' case, paranormal abilities.
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The Rousseau flashback in S4 was allegedly cut due to the writer's strike. Sawyer and Claire also didn't get their flashback episodes due to the strike.
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I would agree with you on those three being born there, laz.

I could have watched the time shifts for the entire episode and been perfectly happy.

I also loved the use of foreshadowing in the beginning with the record skipping.
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I don't trust the writers for anything - we were supposed to learn about the statue in season four. We were also supposed to get a Rousseau flashback!
Ha! The first thing I thought when Faraday asked to be taken to a man-made feature/structure (can't remember how he worded it) on the island was "hey, they're going to the statue!" Alas.

I'd better get my Rousseau flashback. And Libby's story, too. At least they mentioned her tonight.
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