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Old 12-27-2009, 10:57 PM   #346
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Fuck CG. I wish we could go back to these days

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If there's no Gorn fight, or slight reference to one in a following New Trek film, I'll be very disappointed.

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Old 12-27-2009, 11:07 PM   #349
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They cut the gorn out of the most recent one
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If I'm following this correctly, CG is the enemy of cinema.

Speaking of the uncanny valley, GibsonExplorer, which valley do you think is bigger, that between a stop-motion filmed animatronic puppet and reality or that between a state of the art CG animation and reality?
First, there's no uncanny valley involved when you're talking about films like Coraline or Fantastic Mr. Fox. These films have characters and worlds that are very much cartoonish in appearance, and the fakeness is obvious, of course. Uncanny valley applies to films like Polar Express, CGI animation that attempts to make humans appear realistically human. How are stop-motion films even in this discussion?

Second, both Coraline and Fantastic Mr. Fox were far better films overall than Avatar. You don't need a $300 million budget to create an immersive world with talking animals. But I can't imagine someone who holds Avatar in such high esteem can even begin to appreciate the films I've mentioned.
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Interesting. I watched that Klingon Prison sequence, and as awesome as it was, I'm glad it was cut.

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Second, both Coraline and Fantastic Mr. Fox were far better films overall than Avatar. You don't need a $300 million budget to create an immersive world with talking animals. But I can't imagine someone who holds Avatar in such high esteem can even begin to appreciate the films I've mentioned.
Coraline's story is as well-worn and simplistic as Avatar's, yet incredibly gorgeous. Mr. Fox is the most fun movie I've seen all year, then again, I'm a big Wes Anderson fan. He's a guy that gets the "style over substance" label thrown at him often, too, which is bullshit.
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You should just stop now.
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I think Diemen was referring to Harryhausen style animation
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Coraline's story is as well-worn and simplistic as Avatar's, yet incredibly gorgeous. Mr. Fox is the most fun movie I've seen all year, then again, I'm a big Wes Anderson fan. He's a guy that gets the "style over substance" label thrown at him often, too, which is bullshit.
If Wes Anderson made Avatar, I'd be all over that shit.
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I think Diemen was referring to Harryhausen style animation
Well, he could have stated as much.
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Second, both Coraline and Fantastic Mr. Fox were far better films overall than Avatar. You don't need a $300 million budget to create an immersive world with talking animals. But I can't imagine someone who holds Avatar in such high esteem can even begin to appreciate the films I've mentioned.
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It looks like GibsonExplorer is right:
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Well, he could have stated as much.
He probably assumed it was implied in relation to the conversation. But I dunno. I'll let him speak for himself
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He probably assumed it was implied in relation to the conversation. But I dunno. I'll let him speak for himself
Maybe he did. Maybe he didn't. Maybe he was referring to Where The Wild Things Are, which I haven't seen actually.
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