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Old 12-18-2009, 03:48 AM   #211
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You know, the criticisms from the people that aren't screaming "MASTERPIECE!" seem to be the same ones people had with the Star Wars prequels, and I'm wondering why Cameron is getting more of a pass than Lucas did for the same issues.
That's easy: 15 years of fan expectations.

I just got done watching that 70-minute review of Phantom Menace, holy shit. I will pay to have him break down the following two films, and to hear more about his pizza roll murders.
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I watched the first three parts to that. Going down into his basement was hilarious.
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Whatever flaws Avatar has, I didn't think it was sterile, dull or listless like the Star Wars prequels were.
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Whatever flaws Avatar has, I didn't think it was sterile, dull or listless like the Star Wars prequels were.
Absolutely. It's a matter of taste, of course, but to me Avatar was at least, you know, enjoyable to some degree.
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Old 12-18-2009, 02:41 PM   #215
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I saw the midnight screening last night. I was ready to hate it and had no intention of watching but my boyfriend bought tickets and invited me. As predictable as the storyline was, I enjoyed it. 3D is a must. I still don't see this movie breaking even though. 500 million...yeeesh
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Whatever flaws Avatar has, I didn't think it was sterile, dull or listless like the Star Wars prequels were.

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Avatar was at least, you know, enjoyable to some degree.
damning with faint praise ?
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but my boyfriend bought tickets and invited me. yeeesh
the guy in your avatar pic?
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If Larry mullen was my boyfriend I would not have been at the theatre at midnight...giggity
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For me it's worth seeing only in 3D-the visuals are stunning. I enjoyed the first part of it but the last part for me was just laughable. The end confrontation was like Transformers (which I've never seen but I have an idea what it's like from seeing clips, etc.) and Terminator and just so over the top. The military guy especially was just an awful cardboard stereotype-and what hammy acting and dialogue .

So to pay the extra for 3D for a visual escape for almost three hours, well you could do worse with the money and get less for the money I guess.

Whatever the possible messages of this movie are-does it really matter? And I liked Sam Worthington-at least he underplays rather than overacting and he sure is cute.
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That's easy: 15 years of fan expectations.

I just got done watching that 70-minute review of Phantom Menace, holy shit. I will pay to have him break down the following two films, and to hear more about his pizza roll murders.
I agreed with a lot of his points, though some were obviously very nit-picky, and many things he claims to be illogical are easily explained.

The most intelligent thing he brought up, which isn't an original observation, is how the climax is divided up into four separate storylines which do not flow together, despite Ben Burtt's talent (and wishes).

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I watched the first three parts to that. Going down into his basement was hilarious.
I doubt he'll do them because he doesn't have enough ammo, as many of his issues with TPM were corrected. For example, Clones is only cutting between two plots in the final stretch of the film (like Empire), and the difference is astounding in terms of maintaining a consistent tone.
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I nearly pissed myself when he abruptly interrupted his review with the picture of that wiffle ball thing
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Nothing tops the tied-up hooker asking him to let her go.
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I watched the first 10 minutes of that thing, did not laugh once, cringed a few times and found his voice to be overly cloying, and so I will not see the rest of it.
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Okay, if I see this movie will they explain wtf an "avatar" is? I can't wrap my mind around the dude in a wheelchair and the blue cat dude being the same person/thing.
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I agreed with a lot of his points, though some were obviously very nit-picky, and many things he claims to be illogical are easily explained.

The most intelligent thing he brought up, which isn't an original observation, is how the climax is divided up into four separate storylines which do not flow together, despite Ben Burtt's talent (and wishes).



I doubt he'll do them because he doesn't have enough ammo, as many of his issues with TPM were corrected. For example, Clones is only cutting between two plots in the final stretch of the film (like Empire), and the difference is astounding in terms of maintaining a consistent tone.
That was a great observation, along with asking who the real protagonist is and their motivations, etc...

"Qui-Gon needs more Gin..."

Is that footage of Lucas and Co's reaction to the original cut on the DVD's special features? If so, I need to watch that. The look at that asshat McCallum's face is priceless, as is the reference to Rick Berman.

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I nearly pissed myself when he abruptly interrupted his review with the picture of that wiffle ball thing
"WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR FACE?!"
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