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Old 05-31-2012, 12:03 AM   #61
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Please explain how Malcolm in the Middle is better than Community. It was 20 minutes of six people yelling over the top of each other each week.

Edit, silly comment, because that's essentially what Community is too... but I'd still like an explanation!
I'd be more concerned if "The Middle" was ranked over Malcolm.
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:56 PM   #62
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St. Elsewhere was the first one that came to mind.
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Old 06-02-2012, 07:55 PM   #63
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Mind you this is off the top of my head and I definitely think I'm forgetting a lot of my top British series and older series.

1. Friday Night Lights
2. The Wire
3. Frontline
4. ER
5. Homicide: Life on the Street
6. Community
7. The Twilight Zone
8. I Love Lucy
9. Arrested Development
10. Futurama
11. Game of Thrones (*, obviously could be premature if its quality falls off a cliff later on)
12. Six Feet Under
13. Spaced
14. Rubicon (RIP)
15. The Muppet Show
16. The Simpsons (penalized for damaging its reputation for the past 12+ years)
17. Luck (RIP)
18. The X-Files
19. Homeland (*, obviously could be premature if its quality falls off a cliff later on)
20. Deadwood
21. Spooks (MI-5)
22. Lost
23. Justified (on the rise)
24. Scrubs
25. Treme (*, obviously could be premature if its quality falls off a cliff later on, or it could rise)
26. Veronica Mars
27. 24 (S1-3 rank it a lot higher, say top 20)
28. Damages
29. Breaking Bad (I'm the contrarian that doesn't laud AMC outside of Rubicon, because their shows lack relatable characters, but the gutwrenching ethical dilemmas of this show rank it on my list)
30. Brotherhood (most underrated award)
31. MASH
32. Carnivale
33. Terriers (RIP(
34. The Office (UK)
35. Batman: The Animated Series
36. Life on Mars (UK)
37. Law & Order
38. Freaks & Geeks
39. Hey Arnold!
40. Pushing Daisies
41. The Hour (*, obviously could be premature if its quality falls off a cliff later on)
42. In Treatment
43. Twin Peaks
44. Extras
45. My So-Called Life
46. Luther (could rise with subsequent episodes)
47. 30 Rock
48. Rome (could have been higher, but not getting a real finish hurts it)
49. Kings
50. Heroes (by virtue of season 1 being one of the most ambitious slow burn developments in TV history, unfortunately for it, the rest of the seasons exist).


There's obvious stuff people want included on top tv lists that I just don't enjoy watching, like Mad Men & The Sopranos, I'm not pissing on their quality, they're just unenjoyable to me.
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Old 06-02-2012, 07:58 PM   #64
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And my list is already torpedoed by virtue of forgetting the entire career of Aaron Sorkin, yeah, I'm tired. Oh well, his shows will have plenty of votes anyway.
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Old 06-02-2012, 08:00 PM   #65
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I'm having trouble ranking dramas and sitcoms in the same list. I feel like it's apples and oranges. Anyone else feel this way?
I hear that, my list has both and some variety shows and nonfiction series thrown in, talk about complicated.
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l cannot believe I forgot Friday Night Lights.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH ME.



That's in my top 5 for sure.

I suck at lists.
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Eastbound and Down is another I'd include. Such a great tragicomedy and beautifully shot.
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I just realized I forgot Father Ted
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Everyone can keep tinkering with their lists if need be. I'll eventually post a deadline with enough time for people to post another revised ballot and such. I won't be counting any of them until after the deadline.
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:57 PM   #70
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I just realized I forgot Father Ted
Ugh, me too. :-(

But I don't know how I'd alter it at this point, I'd probably want to include Ballykissangel and Rev too.
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Mind you this is off the top of my head and I definitely think I'm forgetting a lot of my top British series and older series.

1. Friday Night Lights
2. The Wire
3. Frontline
4. ER
5. Homicide: Life on the Street
6. Community
7. The Twilight Zone
8. I Love Lucy
9. Arrested Development
10. Futurama
11. Game of Thrones (*, obviously could be premature if its quality falls off a cliff later on)
12. Six Feet Under
13. Spaced
14. Rubicon (RIP)
15. The Muppet Show
16. The Simpsons (penalized for damaging its reputation for the past 12+ years)
17. Luck (RIP)
18. The X-Files
19. Homeland (*, obviously could be premature if its quality falls off a cliff later on)
20. Deadwood
21. Spooks (MI-5)
22. Lost
23. Justified (on the rise)
24. Scrubs
25. Treme (*, obviously could be premature if its quality falls off a cliff later on, or it could rise)
26. Veronica Mars
27. 24 (S1-3 rank it a lot higher, say top 20)
28. Damages
29. Breaking Bad (I'm the contrarian that doesn't laud AMC outside of Rubicon, because their shows lack relatable characters, but the gutwrenching ethical dilemmas of this show rank it on my list)
30. Brotherhood (most underrated award)
31. MASH
32. Carnivale
33. Terriers (RIP(
34. The Office (UK)
35. Batman: The Animated Series
36. Life on Mars (UK)
37. Law & Order
38. Freaks & Geeks
39. Hey Arnold!
40. Pushing Daisies
41. The Hour (*, obviously could be premature if its quality falls off a cliff later on)
42. In Treatment
43. Twin Peaks
44. Extras
45. My So-Called Life
46. Luther (could rise with subsequent episodes)
47. 30 Rock
48. Rome (could have been higher, but not getting a real finish hurts it)
49. Kings
50. Heroes (by virtue of season 1 being one of the most ambitious slow burn developments in TV history, unfortunately for it, the rest of the seasons exist).


There's obvious stuff people want included on top tv lists that I just don't enjoy watching, like Mad Men & The Sopranos, I'm not pissing on their quality, they're just unenjoyable to me.
a pretty decent list
out of 50, only a couple of wankers

glad to see somebody mention, Brotherhood, that is the series for anyone that likes the actor in Awake.

In Treatment, season one is the best

I would also recommend, Huff
I am not really a Hank Azaria fan, but the whole cast, and writing is top notch.
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I didn't make it past episode 8 of Brotherhood. The whole thing was just too on the nose when it seemed to be thinking it was making some really profound and evocative television. I can't be done with pretensions when there's no substance to back it up.

Lucius Malfoy was good though.
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I'd tend to agree with you for much of the first season, but both of the lead actors do impeccable work, as does much of the supporting cast. Really it manages to set up a better subsequent 2 seasons.

In actuality it's probably lower on my list, but no one else is going to vote for it, so it made my top 30.
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a pretty decent list
out of 50, only a couple of wankers

glad to see somebody mention, Brotherhood, that is the series for anyone that likes the actor in Awake.

In Treatment, season one is the best

I would also recommend, Huff
I am not really a Hank Azaria fan, but the whole cast, and writing is top notch.
Yeah some are nostalgia .

To be honest In Treatment is on there for season 1 like you said, which, remake or not is very impressive and certainly pulled off a format that nobody had tried here in America and is tailored straight to the central character's occupation. The acting in that first season is some of the best I've ever seen on TV. I couldn't even make it through season 2 because all the patients were so unbearable or written over the top (some of s1's characters are insufferable but they're well written); Byrne's life also made me want to shoot myself during season 2. And while Amy Ryan coming in & the writers coming up with their own material made me curious about season 3 I haven't checked it out yet because the format change seemed to betray the show.

Huff I haven't seen because I'm also not a fan of Hank Azaria (outside of voice acting), I always want to reach through the TV and punch him in the face. I have heard its a good show though, and I'm a fan of Anton Yelchin, so I'll probably give it a chance sometime.
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and I kind of agree with Woody Allen, he said something like, Awards Shows are stupid, how do you quantify art?
You don't. Quantify white blood cells, red blood cell morphologies and such sure, but art? Naaahhhhhh.

Crap, I've no time for TV. I'm too busy studying for my damn finals tomorrow. All of them in one day, right after each other with a 15 minute break between them. FML.
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