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Old 06-24-2010, 08:27 PM   #1
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Interference Movie Club - Round 1 - "What Ever Happened to Baby Jane"

What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?
Directed by Robert Aldrich (1962)

Selected by LemonMelon - Monday, June 21

Discussion begins Monday, June 28

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In this Grand Guignol chiller, Hudson sisters Jane (Bette Davis) and Blanche (Joan Crawford), both aging actresses, share a rotting Los Angeles mansion, where Jane, once a vaudeville headliner, remains lost in her deranged childhood fantasies. When a devastating car crash -- blamed on a drunken Jane -- leaves Blanche wheelchair-bound, her increasingly psychotic sister seizes the chance to settle a jealous score.
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Old 06-24-2010, 08:32 PM   #2
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Fucking forum is acting buggy as shit lately. Isn't letting me edit. But you get the idea.

I'm still open to how the discussions should go, so we'll play it by ear for a while. I was thinking it would be nice for the one who selected the film to start things off with some sort of substantial post. Their reactions to the film, why they selected it for the club, some questions they have about certain aspects of it, just whatever sorts of things they'd want to get some discussion started. Orrrr, whoever wants to jump in first could just do that and see where it all goes. That's fine too. But in either case, I think discussion should wait until Monday, as that's when everybody participating should have seen the film themselves by.
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Old 06-24-2010, 08:42 PM   #3
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Watched it last night - looking forward to seeing how the discussion goes.
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Old 06-25-2010, 03:36 AM   #4
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I watched it on Monday. The dead birds and rats as dinner was wonderful.
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:56 PM   #5
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I watched it on Monday. The dead birds and rats as dinner was wonderful.
Glad we already have something quote-worthy within the first three posts.

I could quite easily write a post several paragraphs long about this film, as it provoked a strong reaction in me, but that will have to wait until the 28th. Suffice it to say that I felt it was a film whose characters and actions are certainly questionable, a film that divides viewers as they watch. Should be an interesting thread.
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Why are we waiting until the 28th again? If people haven't watched the film, they shouldn't come into the thread. There's nothing else being discussed in here anyway.

I'd rather hear people's initial reactions while they're still fresh.
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Old 06-25-2010, 03:24 PM   #7
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I'm half way through it and I think it's crap, so far.
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Why are we waiting until the 28th again? If people haven't watched the film, they shouldn't come into the thread. There's nothing else being discussed in here anyway.

I'd rather hear people's initial reactions while they're still fresh.
Eh, I guess that's true enough.
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:38 PM   #9
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What if people can't/haven't watched it yet, and they come into the thread next week and find that everyone's already done talking about it?
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What if people can't/haven't watched it yet, and they come into the thread next week and find that everyone's already done talking about it?
This was my thinking, honestly. I can imagine a lot of discussion fizzling out pretty quick if people just start early. But I'm still open to trying it out however.
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We just need to practice tantric movie discussion so we don't blow our loads, so to speak.

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Decided to use Sunday night to watch, it'll be fresh on my mind then.
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I think that these are worthwhile and very relevant to the film in question. The pieces and ideas referenced/summarized pretty well frame my approach to the film:

Freud, "The Uncanny"

Mirror stage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lacan: The Mirror Stage

GradeSaver: Jane Eyre Study Guide : The Madwoman in the Attic: Angel or Monster?

People tend to get angry about literary criticism with which they disagree or which they simply don't understand (and BELIEVE ME, I've been there and I understand all too well), so I'll come out and say that A) I'm not--nor is anybody, really, at this point in time--a believer in psychoanalysis; B) ...but that shit is still really important, because its one-time prominence (and lingering prominence, for some reason, in the arts; see: every single Hitchcock film) bled out into many realms, for better or worse, like literature and film, greatly and deeply affecting their narrative and symbolic apparatuses; and C) that I'm not necessarily saying that I subscribe to the pieces in question. It's fine to react against them or challenge them. Most of the time, they're AT LEAST very wrong, even if in fascinating or illuminating ways.

Sorry. I don't want to force the conversation. I just wanted to shed some light on what I thought of, when I saw the film. This was the stuff that really interested me. I don't really have much else, apart from, "Wow, that one part was great!" or "Ugh, that other part was fucking terrible, B."
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I really liked the scene where Bette Davis is singing one of her old songs, dressed in the old costume, and she looks in the mirror and is horrified by the old woman she sees looking back at her.

I rolled my eyes when Jane Crawford was going through all that effort to write the note and throw it down to her neighbor's yard. Why not just bang on the window and holler to get her attention?

I had watched the movie a couple of years ago, but had forgotten much of it. I did like it overall, although it started to lose my interest when things actually started to happen (i.e., Jane tying up Blanche).

I'm not sure if that's the movie's fault or if I should blame my short attention span. It's probably the latter.
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I would say it's the fault of the film.

I had pretty much the exact same reactions you did. Lazy script. But I still pretty much enjoyed it. And I thought it was fascinating, thanks to Freud, Lacan, and friends.
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