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Old 05-26-2008, 09:50 PM   #721
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Maybe we're all just too jaded to see a fun movie anymore?
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Old 05-26-2008, 09:53 PM   #722
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Maybe we're all just too jaded to see a fun movie anymore?
I wasn't all that fun, that's the problem. And, to be honest, I expect a little more than just fun from those involved with the film. I'd have settled for fun, though.
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Old 05-26-2008, 09:54 PM   #723
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Maybe we're all just too jaded to see a fun movie anymore?
I've noticed that too
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Old 05-26-2008, 09:59 PM   #724
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There seems to be two camps here

one camp wants to have their Indy big screen experience
and tend to like the film and are glad we got this installment


the other camp
is evaluating this on the same scorecard they would with any current release
and quite honestly it dose not deserve a passing grade


these two camps have different perspectives
and I don't think we have to agree
> for the world to be right
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:55 PM   #725
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I saw it today, too and gotta echo the same sentiments about the script. A lot of it was a hell of fun and worth the ride. I thought the action set pieces were some of the best/most inventive in the whole series (the bike chase, the Area 51 fight, even the jungle fight) so I'll just list what I didn't like:

- Shia and the CG Monkeys
- 3 waterfalls
- Mac / Marion / Oxley being incredibly underwritten
- CG gophers? What the fuck? This isn't Caddyshack 3
- Shia getting smacked in the nuts repeatedly during the rapier fight

This could've also been called How Harrison Ford Got His Groove Back. Seriously, what the hell has he been doing for 10+ years?

I'd put it firmly between Temple of Doom and Last Crusade though.




pretty much, yeah.

just saw it. enjoyed it. could have been better, but could have been a hell of a lot worse. i loved the beginning, and i loved putting Indy in that weird suburbia mock-up -- a great visual contrast, let's us know the word has changed since the 1930s. but then what is conceivably a great conceit -- 1950s, communist paranoia, Marion reunion -- is totally wasted, and i'm not sure what for or where it went. much like the Star Wars movies, i feel there's something pretty great in here, it's just been lost.

the jungle chase was great, the ants were fantastic, and i loved the alien connection -- makes sense now that God is dead and science lives.

but, did anyone notice how toned-down the violence was in this one? the OT were semi-sadistic, Indy gave as good as he got, and there were always bloody ends and violent deaths and bone-crunching action. this? it barely rates a PG-13, imho. but it also makes the whole thing, like Star Wars, more unattainable, less lived-in, and thus less plausible.

i think i'll see it again. anyone who doesn't get a kick out of some of it does need to chill out and relax, but no, it's not a great movie.

so it is.

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I'm starting to find the "if you did not enjoy this there is something wrong with you" comments condescending and insulting. I really really REALLY wanted to like this film. I own the Original Trilogy and thing that Raiders is the 2nd best action film of all time. I am a big Spielberg fan despite some of the shit he takes from posters here. I am also an admirer of Lucas, and appreciate Ford's career. I saw this on opening weekend not to rip it, but to hopefully like it.

All that being said, I'm just not going to give it a free pass or pretend that I really liked it. And if you did like it, I'm not questioning that at all, taste is subjective.

It's not about "could it have been better", as no movie is perfect. Simply stated, I left the theater underwhelmed and a tad disappointed. No part of me desires to see it again, and that more than anything tells me how I feel about it.

You're talking to a guy who loves Tombstone, enjoys Dune and still thinks Flash Gordon is a fun movie. All 3 of those films are a bit of a mess, a tad absurd and not what you'd call "great" films, but I like them still. I simply did not like Indy IV, I did not get a kick out of it, it was not all that good or fun. I wish it were.
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Raiders is the 2nd best action film of all time.
What's in your number one spot?
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What's in your number one spot?
The Empire Strikes Back.
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Ooh, good one.
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Ooh, good one.
I love both, though, and think it's a close race for which is best. They have one great common denominator in Ford.

Empire wins out due to the cliffhanger/revelation at the end.....that was a pre-internet bombshell that blew the 9 year old me away.

Do you happen to have a favorite action flick, Crarky?
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Hmm ... probably Raiders. I really, really like the X-Men movies (at least the first two; the third one I just liked, with no "really"), but that's more "comic book flick" than "action flick."
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Terminator 2 bitches.


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Hmm ... probably Raiders. I really, really like the X-Men movies (at least the first two; the third one I just liked, with no "really"), but that's more "comic book flick" than "action flick."
I liked the XMen trilogy a lot, too. The Bourne movies are good action movies, I think.
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Terminator 2 bitches.


I was telling YLB that one of the things that prevents me from ever permanently leaving Interference, for now at least, is waiting for the lead-up to and then your review of Avatar. I feel that either way, whether it is awesome, or horrible, you're going to die after seeing it.
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I was telling YLB that one of the things that prevents me from ever permanently leaving Interference, for now at least, is waiting for the lead-up to and then your review of Avatar. I feel that either way, whether it is awesome, or horrible, you're going to die after seeing it.
This is definitely confirmed.

An action movie talk and no mention of Die Hard yet? I'm disappointed, folks.
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