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Old 07-17-2010, 12:18 AM   #31
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Yeah, the children not aging throughout the whole thing bothered me a bit as well.
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dammit
those fucking spoilers are out

I have to see this movie stat
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Old 07-17-2010, 04:53 AM   #33
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I didn't find it ambiguous. Nolan held that shot just long enough to make you feel unsettled, but I don't think it was truly meant to be open-ended.
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And where's GAF? I hope he didn't short-circuit.
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I didn't find it ambiguous. Nolan held that shot just long enough to make you feel unsettled, but I don't think it was truly meant to be open-ended.
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Old 07-17-2010, 01:06 PM   #37
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"In the opening moments you get a glimpse of Leo's hand. Specifically, he's wearing his wedding ring. Now, if you follow the rest of the movie keeping an eye out for this you will notice that he only has the ring on when he's in the dream world. At the end of the movie he isn't wearing the ring." If the ring only appears when he's in a dream and he's not wearing at the end of the film, that could be confirmation that in fact, the top does stop spinning after the credits and Cobb is at last in the real world."







Arghhhh...somebody keep an eye out for this if they see Inception again...
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Old 07-17-2010, 01:54 PM   #38
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I don't think it's even necessary to do that.
 
You hear a slight wobble in the spin right before it cuts to black, and that's all I need to know.
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The fact that he actually gets to see the kids' faces (regardless of age and attire) and the noticeable faltering of the top are enough to convince me it wasn't a dream. That wedding ring deal is just the icing on the cake.
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The fact that he actually gets to see the kids' faces (regardless of age and attire) and the noticeable faltering of the top are enough to convince me it wasn't a dream. That wedding ring deal is just the icing on the cake.

 
It's been pointed out that the kids look exactly like they have in his dreams, but I'd argue that (a) it's not stated how long he's been away from them, and that (b) we could be seeing them from his subjective standpoint, which I don't think is a cheat at all.



Is Lance seeing this over the weekend?
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Old 07-17-2010, 06:00 PM   #41
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I really enjoyed the hell out of this, but have to wonder...why/how is this a mind-fuck? I thought the movie was shamelessly predictable. Again, that didn't bother me. I wasn't going in and demanding that the film confound me. Have I just seen way, way, way too many films, or is the "WTF??????????" sector simply louder than it is sizable?
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The rules of the world are actually pretty easy to grasp. It's far from a mindfuck, but sometimes folks can mistake intricacy for WTFness.
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True enough, yeah. Not even talking about the rules, so much. I've just heard and read a lot of talk about how the film just kept coming with the buck wild left turns, and so forth. Cannot relate. But, again, I didn't care. Knowing for two hours what was going to happen didn't really bother me until the 200th cutaway to the falling-in-slomo van (at that point, I was like, "Look, let's go, already. Stop delaying the inevitable, already, you fucker."). Other than that, I enjoyed watching the film expertly hit the right notes, again and again and again.
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I understand what you're getting at on the predictability front. Hell, I even guessed what the final shot would probably involve by the midway point. But what saved it for me is just how imaginative the story was. No degree of predictability was going to stop me from getting sucked into a world so unique and captivating.
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Meh.

There was a lot that I liked about it, individual moments or images, but overall the thing fell flat for me. I don't think the whole was greater than the sum of its parts. Often during the 1 hour + long sequence while they were inside Fischer's head, I found myself, frankly, bored. Some of (what was supposed to be) the thrilling and climactic action didn't work. The jokes didn't work. For me. I rolled my eyes at many, many lines of dialogue. I think we've all filled our lifetime quotas of hearing the words "subconscious" and "projection." I was sick of waiting for that god damned van to hit the water. And I was sick of looking at JGL floating so gingerly through the air trying to cram his buddies into the elevator.

But, like I said, I didn't dislike everything and won't be completely negative here:

 
Loved the ending. The last 10 minutes or so. Very strong ending to a movie that I wasn't particularly enjoying - that doesn't happen all that often. Was very glad that the team "won" and were successful in their mission to incept the Scarecrow. The scene at the baggage claim where they're all giving each other knowing and contented "we did it" smiles was very nice, and was reminiscent of moments from LOST. And then the big ol’ happy ending - Leo gets to reunite with his kids! That was great and is easily my favorite moment of the whole film. He got to see their faces. And they were cute as hell! It would have been funny if they turned around and were ugly. And, yes, his totem fell. That was just Nolan fucking with people.

And I liked a lot of the stuff involving Cotillard. The scene where Ellen Page is riding up and down the elevator of memories and hits the button for the basement and she's walking into the trashed hotel room - that had a very good creepy, scary vibe.


Ultimately what this movie did is make me appreciate the first Matrix more than I ever have. Yes, a lot of folks are using that comparison, and it seems a bit wrong to compare the two - they are completely different stories by completely different filmmakers. But, if people are calling Inception a masterpiece and one of the most entertaining and thrilling movies in a long time? Jesus Christ. Go back and watch the first Matrix. That shit did it soooooooo much better. For me. And I know it's impossible to go back and watch the first Matrix again with a completely open mind, forgetting the bitter taste left from the sequels, etc. But if we're talking about a futuristic and slick action movie with a story about people entering a completely different world full of new rules and possibilities - the Matrix makes this thing look weak in comparison.
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