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Old 07-26-2010, 07:06 PM   #346
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I've read that theory. Interesting. I think the most telling scene is the one in Mombasa; Very dream-like. Havent decided if I'm fully on board, but if that's the case, I'd somehow find it very satisfying
 
It makes the most sense to me, considering the ways that certain characters act more as elements of the subconscious as opposed to more complex ones. On top of that, Cobb's refusal to accept his own reality while at the same time trying to dictate orders to everyone clinches it. The scene with Michael Caine early on and nearly every moment with Marion Cotillard kind of solidify that for me.


I planned on seeing it again tonight, but an impromptu production meeting quashed that. Lady Friend and I are disappoint.
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Lady Friend and I are disappoint.
There's a new Lady Friend? I missed this update.
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Old 07-26-2010, 07:17 PM   #348
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There's a new Lady Friend? I missed this update.
Yeah, I mentioned it briefly in one of the threads here. I'll catch you up on a better channel.
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Old 07-26-2010, 07:27 PM   #349
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Probably a thread I haven't read since I watch an embarrassingly small number of movies.
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A 'production meeting' with the lady friend? Eh eh?
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Old 07-26-2010, 07:41 PM   #351
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Ya, well my totem tells me otherwise

I get it, you know it's the real one because there's a baby mouse hiding in the end of yours?

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Also, the whole movie's a dream, and it's the first time that I can recall that it's not a complete cop-out.
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I'd be down with that theory being true as well, Basterd.
Luckily, it's wrong.
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I get it, you know it's the real one because there's a baby mouse hiding in the end of yours?





Luckily, it's wrong.
I don't know if it's "right" or "wrong", but I do know that I do disagree with it. However, if I were wrong I wouldn't mind it being because the other theory was true.
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That article was so idiotic,
I couldn't even write that stupid,
and I have been perfecting my craft for years.
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What's so idiotic about it?
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Old 07-26-2010, 08:35 PM   #355
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I don't know if it's "right" or "wrong", but I do know that I do disagree with it. However, if I were wrong I wouldn't mind it being because the other theory was true.

It is wrong. The "evidence" to suggest it is fan wankery and totally circumstantial. On the other hand, you have the FACT that the top audibly wobbles at the end, the FACT that he is wearing a ring in every dream sequence but no ring is seen at the end, and the FACT that the cast lists four actors who play the children at TWO DIFFERENT FUCKING AGES, 9 and 11.

Anyone who thinks it's a dream is either stubborn or delusional.
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Like I said, I don't agree with the theory, relax.
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BUT WE NEED TO FIGURE THIS OUT!!!!

Cuz it's so important to the meaning of the film. :/
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Old 07-26-2010, 08:55 PM   #358
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It is wrong. The "evidence" to suggest it is fan wankery and totally circumstantial. On the other hand, you have the FACT that the top audibly wobbles at the end, the FACT that he is wearing a ring in every dream sequence but no ring is seen at the end, and the FACT that the cast lists four actors who play the children at TWO DIFFERENT FUCKING AGES, 9 and 11.

Anyone who thinks it's a dream is either stubborn or delusional.
But if it's his dream, it doesnt matter what happens to the top. He knows how its supposed to react, so whether it topples or not is irrelevant. Think about it. If Arthur has a dream and his die lands on the right side, it doesnt mean anything. He's supposed to know what side it lands on. The totem only tells you if you're in someone else's dream who doesnt know the specifics of your totem
And I mentioned the wedding ring thing a few posts back. I'll have to see it for myself, but my gf swears you cant see it in the final scene.
And the kids at the end were definitely the kids in his memories. I think it's the kids voices during the phone conversation that are played by the older actors.
I'm not saying that the theory is completely sound, but those pieces of evidence don't discount it
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It's so clearly designed to be ambiguous and meant to provoke this very discussion that it's asinine to be so stubbornly defensive of one interpretation or the other.
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It's so clearly designed to be ambiguous and meant to provoke this very discussion that it's asinine to be so stubbornly defensive of one interpretation or the other.
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