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Old 09-30-2011, 11:30 PM   #1
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Homeland - on Showtime - best new series

ordinarily I'm a skeptic



http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...0,155345.story

I keep reading these very positive reviews,
praising the writing, and acting. For me, the writing is the key.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:32 PM   #2
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I'm so skeptical about it as well. The look and subject matter of the show do not interest me at all, but the reviews are freakin' through the roof. I'll have to check it out.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:43 PM   #3
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I checked it out last night. It was okay.
If I had not had any expectations, I would have thought I made a nice find.


Cinemax has a series called Strikeback, found it by accident, it is really good. Time Warner has it on OnDemand, people should check that one out.
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Old 10-04-2011, 01:06 AM   #4
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I wanted to watch this, but alas, no Showtime (which also prevents me from seeing From the Sky Down until the AB/Zooropa box set comes out), also Damian Lewis looks far too much like he's turned his weird-damaged-goods detective from Life into this show as a POW. Seriously, way too similar in terms of mannerisms.
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I checked this out last night. It was ok. I'm not sure about Carrie's psychotic angle, but at least they gave it to us early and didn't introduce it much later. I guess she gets her brilliant flashes of inspiration when she's having an episode. It might be helpful at some point to get a bit of background on her.

I'm going to check out Strikeback, on the recommendation, thanks.
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Homeland is easily one of the best new pilots of the season for me.

I was absolutely stunned with Clair Dannes' character. I got a feeling this will be a special show.

Let's hope that the 2nd episode doesn't dissapoint.
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I'm going to check out Strikeback, on the recommendation, thanks.
it's not brilliant by any measure, it is just that I found it by accident, surfing through my onDemand free stuff.

usually that stuff is unbearable, after about 5-10 minutes, i got to turn it off.
This held my interest, they throw in a couple of hot nude scenes, and there is action, plus it is not predictable.
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Downloaded it last night.

I realized I saw this before.

It was called "Brothers".
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I'm kindof put off by Carrie. I can't put my finger on it just yet, but she's beginning to annoy the hell out of me.

And I can't help but ask: Does an American soldier who "turns" necessarily also become Muslim? I'm not sure why they felt the need to make that a part of his story. It feels cheap. It's completely plausible that a rescued POW might come back "turned" without bringing religion into it imo.

I'm willing to give it a few more viewings, hopefully these are minor quibbles I have.

They should lose the intro though. Also cheesy and overkill imo.
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I think the Muslim angle is there to confuse the audience more. It doesn't mean he's turned, just that he's found it as a path to God or became religious for the first time. I would think that a terrorist group that hijacks the Muslim faith for their own means would therefore need it's members to believe in that religion to some extent. Otherwise, what sort of cause could they convince him to join in for? The episode clearly made everything more dubious by presenting his turning to the religion as kind of a spiritual awakening rather than a bit of co-coercion. We really won't know if he's tilted until the end of the season, I'm certain.

Anyway, they keep reeling me in more with each passing episode. Briskly paced stuff without any annoying leaps in logic or red-herrings in a similar series like The Killing. I just hope we get some sort of closure since the ratings have been pretty sub-standard and I wouldn't place a bet on a second season despite the acclaim.
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I think the Muslim angle is there to confuse the audience more. It doesn't mean he's turned, just that he's found it as a path to God or became religious for the first time. I would think that a terrorist group that hijacks the Muslim faith for their own means would therefore need it's members to believe in that religion to some extent. Otherwise, what sort of cause could they convince him to join in for?
Well that's sortof my point. To preface however..when I say "turned" I mean in the sense of becoming an agent for the terrorists, I don't mean it in a religious sense at all. I mean it in the original sense it was presented to us as, ie, as a spy. I couldn't care less if he's Christian, Muslim, Jew, atheist, whatever. Frankly I find it more probable and realistic that a man will "turn" and become a spy based on disillusionment with his country's ideals, and foreign policies, the lies he and others were told to get him to go to war, etc, than out of religious conversion. I think it's much harder to change a man's faith (or lack of it) than it is to sway his politics, in other words.

I'm still on the fence. I don't like unnecessarily gratuitous scenes and this series has so far had at least one in each episode.
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Just watched the pilot - liked it a lot more than I was expecting! Looking forward to catching up with the next few.
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l LOVE THIS SHOW.
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I suppose at some point they're going to explain how an atheist (or at minimum, agnostic) being brutally tortured and held as a POW just magically decides to become Muslim? Because that's still a really dumbass part of this show imo.
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I think they kind of did that in the last episode,

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