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Old 07-12-2009, 05:35 PM   #16
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Please do. Especially in response to the movies being shit.
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This is going to ramble and likely won't make a lick of sense.

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A lot of critics are saying it's the best one yet.
Yup. 96% on Rotten Tomatoes. Early word has been almost unanimously positive, but people have varied in the way they've praised it. Some saying it is slightly disjointed, but ultimately satisfying. Many saying it is the funniest of the films. Some saying it's the best thing since sliced bread and that it will be one of the 10 films nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars next spring.

It will obviously be an immaculately crafted film, in terms of sound and visuals and acting. I'm of the mind that the Harry Potter film franchise was perfectly cast.

Hmmm, we have to find someone to play Harry, Ron, and Hermione. Let's get the three fucking cutest young British actors in the world to play them! Perfect.

We have to find someone to play Professor Severus Snape. Let's get the fucking bad guy from Die Hard! Perfect.

We have to find someone to play this obnoxious asshole Gilderoy Lockhart. Let's get fucking Kenneth Branagh! Perfect.

We have to find someone to play the friendly giant named Hagrid. Let's get the guy who played Zukovsky in Goldeneye who has the absolute most spot on voice for the role! Perfect.

You get the point.

Oh wait, we need music? Let's get John Williams to compose one of the greatest pieces of music of his career for this shit.

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I feel the movies have been getting better and better with each one
Yes. Each film has improved on its predecessor, if only because of the growth of the story itself and the growth of the young actors. With each chapter has come an increasing and palpable sense of life and death, dread, darkness. Year one it's all about Harry getting his first Nimbus 2000. By year 4 we actually have Harry and Voldemort dueling it out, face to face, wand to wand, in a fucking graveyard. The stories, and the films, have been getting better. Shit is getting serious. And I don't mean Sirius.

Then the maturation of the young actors. The greatest moment of the first 5 films takes place in Phoenix, with the formation of Dumbledore's Army. A group of ultimate bad asses who hide out in a secret room in their school/castle and practice kicking the crap out of each other with their wands so that when they face Voldemort's crew they will be ready. And when they finally face Voldemort's crew in the climactic fight at the Department of Mysteries, were they prepared? You bet your ass they were. They "Stupify! Stupify! Stupified!" the shit out of those mask-wearing baddies.

The maturation of the Hogwarts students and their growing bond and friendship over the years is the true heart of the story. And the actors (not just the big three, but also the actors playing Neville, Ginny, etc.) have grown so wonderfully into their parts.

So yeah, it's the ensemble cast that makes these films a success. It's dangerous taking a beloved book series with a wonderfully fantastic story and transferring it to the big screen. At the end of the day, it's Daniel Radcliffe, Rupert Grint and Emma Watson that make this film franchise memorable and captivating.

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Am I the only one that thinks Michael Gambon does a fine job playing Dumbledore? It's weird because I think Richard Harris was missing the playful, almost youthful spirit of Dumbledore
Exactly. Gambon's portrayal is light years ahead of Harris. Harris seemed to be goign through the motions, seemingly uninspired and uninterested in the role he was playing. No fluidity, no light in the eyes, nothing. And he was a (literally) dying man. Can you imagine old Richard Harris pulling off the epic showdown between Voldy and Dumbles at the end of Phoenix? No. It wouldn't have worked. The man couldn't move. Gambon has a bounce in his step.


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Yeah, a lot of character moments in that film were way off, especially with Hermione.
I still don't know what scene you're referring to with Dumbledore in Goblet. I can't recall him doing anything weird when Harry's name comes out or in the office. Maybe I repressed whatever it is. And what was off about Hermione in Goblet? I'm curious, and Goblet is playing on ABC Family in like 2 hours and I'll look out for these things.
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^Yeah, I wouldn't go quite as far as to call Harris' performance "uninspired", just lacking Dumbledore's upbeat nature. As you said, he was actually sick during filming (during COS), so that probably explains a lot of it. My friends were discussing this over wine last night (because, really, what better way to discuss children's literature? ), and you and I are definitely in the Dumbeldore minority. I do feel all of the characters were perfectly cast, though, especially Alan Rickman as Snape. I don't see anyone else playing that role as well as he does. I feel the same way about Gary Oldman as Sirius. I watched all 5 movies in a row recently (well, one each night), and it really made me appreciate how much Dan, Rupert, and Emma have grown as actors. They were incredibly talented in the beginning, but they've really done a brilliant job of portraying the character as they age and mature very much like the books do. All of my friends and most of my class mates started reading the books when they came out, so they grew up with the characters. Because of my church's ridiculous teachings I was never allowed to read them, but I finally started last summer and read all 7 in a row. Reading them in a quick succession really made me realize how the books matured from definitely being geared more towards younger children in SS to definitely being more geared towards teens/young adults in DH. The movies have done a great job so far as well, and I hope they continue doing so.
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I still don't know what scene you're referring to with Dumbledore in Goblet. I can't recall him doing anything weird when Harry's name comes out or in the office. Maybe I repressed whatever it is. And what was off about Hermione in Goblet? I'm curious, and Goblet is playing on ABC Family in like 2 hours and I'll look out for these things.
He looks like he's about to choke the damn kid. It's hard to miss.

Hermione was just too whiny for me. She and most of the other characters felt very one-dimensional compared to the better two films. I haven't watched any of them since Phoenix was in theaters, so it's hard to point out any more specifics.
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Alan Rickman, Gary Oldman, and Kenneth Branagh could not have been cast better for their respective roles. Reading the Chamber of Secrets, Lockhart just seemed so Shakespearian in his over-the-top sense of self-worth and tendency to go on ridiculous tangents. What better actor than Branagh to do that?
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Alan Rickman, Gary Oldman, and Kenneth Branagh could not have been cast better for their respective roles. Reading the Chamber of Secrets, Lockhart just seemed so Shakespearian in his over-the-top sense of self-worth and tendency to go on ridiculous tangents. What better actor than Branagh to do that?
I'm waiting to see Tommy Wiseau as Baby Voldemort.
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Love all of the books but Half-Blood Prince was by far my favorite one along with Deathly Hallows. Even though it's going to be absolute hell Im going opening night to see this movie.
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Harris > Gambon.

I hope they stop cutting out important points like they did in the last three movies. HBP was the best book and I liked Yates' OOTP the best out of all the movies.
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I'm very excited. Unfortunately, I cannot see the movie until Saturday, but to make up for that I'm seeing it in 3D Imax.

The big nerd that I am, I watched all 5 films this weekend and the contrast from the first 2 to the last three is insane. The acting is so much better, and I think the material has also gotten better. I still think the look of POA was breathtaking, of course I'm a sucker for Curaon. Is it maddening that they cut stuff out, yes, but I understand that most people would not want to sit through a 3 hour plus film. Still, I'd be there.

I'm weird in that I'm a spoilerphobe (even though I already know what's going to happen), so I'm trying not to see to many clips from HBP. I cannot wait until Saturday.
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I iz excited!
someday i'll get to read the books!

gonna try to before Deathly Hollows gets to the screen!
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I'm going to the midnight showing tonight. So I guess I'll be seeing this movie in about 13.5 hours!!!!!!

Goin with a small little group of die-hards. We're gonna watch Order of the Phoenix and drink a bunch of Delirium Nocturnum immediately before heading to the theater. Should be fucking amazing.
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I really wanted to see this tonight, but I'd just be too exhausted for work tomorrow. And on top of that I have the worst flu evar, so I'm really not able to do the midnight fun.

Friday night for me.
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Cannot wait to see Snape again. HAWT.
Ditto! I always thought the Snape character (or maybe its Alan Rickman) very sexy
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Ditto! I always thought the Snape character (or maybe its Alan Rickman) very sexy
So do these women, apparently.





They're called "Snapewives," and once you've seen them, you can never unsee them.
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I'm going to the midnight showing tonight. So I guess I'll be seeing this movie in about 13.5 hours!!!!!!

Goin with a small little group of die-hards. We're gonna watch Order of the Phoenix and drink a bunch of Delirium Nocturnum immediately before heading to the theater. Should be fucking amazing.
have great time!


I'll be going Fri eve!
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