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Old 07-14-2010, 11:00 PM   #16
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My favorite book is Azkaban, but I usually tell people it's GOF, they're just that close I suppose.

OOTP was just so bad, I really lost love for the series, and HBP didn't help thinks, so I was very surprised when I liked DH as much as I did, and as a result, probably liked the movie a lot more than I would've otherwise.
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OOTP is my least favorite book, but that's mainly because I hated seeing what happened to Hogwarts in it with the Ministry taking over and that awful bitch Umbridge coming in. I did like the movie version, though. I'm in the minority here and with my friends because POA is my least favorite of the movies. I can't put my finger on it, but something about the directing really put me off of that one. It's probably my second favorite of the books, although overall, I think GOF had the most interesting plot.
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Maybe the fact that they ripped the book to holy shreds?

OOTP was a great film for making that book even remotely interesting to me.
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Azkaban is the best book and film for me.

This is getting the 2-film treatment, but the one that really needed it (Goblet of Fire) did not?
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^I agree, Ashley The scenes at Hogwarts after Umbridge took over were painstaking in the book. The movie made them tolerable, and I especially love the scene where Umbridge tries to make Snape give Harry the Verita Serum, and he says he has none left. And when Harry tries to tell him about what's happened to Sirius he uses the code name, Padfoot. Obviously, Snape knows what he's talking about, but I love the way he just looks at Harry then Umbridge and says, "No idea". It's one of my favorite scenes in the movies. Alan Rickman was born to play Snape. I love that character.
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Azkaban is the best book and film for me.

This is getting the 2-film treatment, but the one that really needed it (Goblet of Fire) did not?
I've heard a lot of arguments about too much being left out of GOF, and while I agree, I still felt the movie was a good adaptation and left all the important plot points in. I thought the graveyard scene especially was really well done both in all respects, acting , cinematography, and special effects. All of the Triwizard challenge scenes were excellent as well.
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Azkaban is the best book and film for me.


Azkaban (film) finally gives Hogwarts some depth, life, activity, sense of movement, etc. It also injects some decent humor into the proceedings. The leap it represents from its predecessors is almost immeasurable.
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Not only did they leave a lot out, but it's way too rushed. The plot that's left in there is skimmed over quite a bit, and the pacing of the book isn't reflected anywhere.

And the scene where Dumbledore gets all pushy with Harry for no reason is horrible and completely wrong for the character. It was an incredibly poor adaptation.
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^I do agree on the Dumbledore scene. That was completely out of character and didn't really seem to serve a point. I did enjoy the rest of the movie a lot, though.
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Azkaban (film) finally gives Hogwarts some depth, life, activity, sense of movement, etc. It also injects some decent humor into the proceedings. The leap it represents from its predecessors is almost immeasurable.
This post made me laugh way less than it should have. It may have even sucked laughter out of me.

 
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In all seriousness, I agree completely. It could have been a huge misstep with the death of Richard Harris and the change of director, but it worked really well and did all the things you mentioned correctly. Now, it had a little help from the novel with the feeling you're describing since the world was opened up a little more, what with Hogsmeade and everything going on, but credit to them for taking full advantage of that.
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This post made me laugh way less than it should have. It may have even sucked laughter out of me.

 
LIKE A DEMENTOR.


In all seriousness, I agree completely. It could have been a huge misstep with the death of Richard Harris and the change of director, but it worked really well and did all the things you mentioned correctly. Now, it had a little help from the novel with the feeling you're describing since the world was opened up a little more, what with Hogsmeade and everything going on, but credit to them for taking full advantage of that.
Agreed that the book helps, but I even mean the physical structure of Hogwarts itself. Things move, you get more of a sense of depth, kinetics, background life and goings-on, etc. And it looks gorgeous, at least to me.

And, yeah, good point about Harris, etc.

Fucking Dementors.
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Agreed that the book helps, but I even mean the physical structure of Hogwarts itself. Things move, you get more of a sense of depth, kinetics, background life and goings-on, etc. And it looks gorgeous, at least to me.

And, yeah, good point about Harris, etc.

Fucking Dementors.
Chris Columbus apparently decided that extreme close-ups on every actor/exchange was absolutely necessary for each film. What a great choice!

I'm certainly glad that Cuaron established the look/tone of the following films, and successfully, I might add. Rowling's first choice for director was Terry Gilliam, who would've hit it out of the park. It's kind of a shame that the film series had to be diluted for a wider audience, which is almost ridiculous to say looking at the widespread appeal of the book series, but most of the darker themes explored in the text and more intense character moments that Harry and Co. go through are either glossed over or underdeveloped in the films. Again, I understand the reasoning for it in the business sense, but it prevented the film series from achieving consistent greatness as opposed to just showing flashes of it, at least to me.
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I don't think there's anything all that wrong with the first two movies. They were the least serious and most kid-friendly of the books, and I think the movies reflected that.
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I don't think there's anything all that wrong with the first two movies. They were the least serious and most kid-friendly of the books, and I think the movies reflected that.
Then the agreeing to disagree shall begin (I think this was prophesied, Ashley), as I thought both were horrid, regardless of the tone of the source material.

AZKABAN, I love thee and that's why I own you on Blu-Ray.
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Agreed, we must agree to disagree. Azkaban destroyed my soul :exaggeration:
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