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Old 04-15-2014, 08:51 AM   #91
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brewing love triangle thing with Jaime/Cersei/Brienne
Yeah, this was a crock of shit in my book.
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I remember reading this sequence in the book and realizing for the first time that Martin doesn't just have a hate on for all decent human beings.
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Old 04-21-2014, 02:24 AM   #93
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Once again, Arya/Hound is the clear standout. Pure joy.

I do love the tense and smoky Sansa/Littlefinger open, as well as Oberyn's shit-talking.

The winners of tonight's episode:

1. Arya/Hound
2. Sansa/Littlefinger
3. Prince Oberyn
4. Tywin
5. The dude who looks way different than the previous actor, who winked at Daenerys and will probably get to have great sex with her
6. Diana Rigg - This sexy bitch basically admitted to being in on the Joffrey murder, right?
7. Tyrion is always on the list of winners, really no matter what happens

The losers:

1. Sam/Gilly - This shit is unnecessary and boring
2. Those villagers who were all like "The Wildings are coming!" and got murdered - Fuck everything that has to do with this plot
3. Jon Snow - Fuck this guy, he's lame
4. Stannis - He's always a little bit of a bitch
5. Cersei/Jaime - We get it. I hope you both die.
6. Those three other dudes who Daenerys doesn't want to fuck as much as she wants to fuck that one dude who looked way different last season
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Old 04-21-2014, 03:13 AM   #94
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Kind of a lame episode. The scenes were going on considerably longer than usual and it put the pacing off. Usually when a scene is done in one location we cut away to another plotline, but here they would cut right to another scene with the same characters in another location.

Didn't really do much for me outside of the moving scene with Tyrion saying goodbye to his squire, and the Daenerys sequence.
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Old 04-21-2014, 10:37 AM   #95
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Kind of a lame episode.
Especially when they casually change Jaime and Cersei banging in the sept into a fucking rape scene.
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Especially when they casually change Jaime and Cersei banging in the sept into a fucking rape scene.

That scene was painful. Just unnecessary.

Maybe it's because Joffrey is dead, but the episode was the most lackluster yet. Sansa's story is finally moving along but that's all. And the hell is winter going to come after all the hype from Ned Stark and those white walkers? Also that scene in the pleasure house was also pointless and didn't advance anything. Just an excuse for being gratuitous, that's all.
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That scene was painful. Just unnecessary.
Completely unnecessary and undoes all the strides in character Jaime made in S3. I'm not going to quibble over changes to the books because they're two separate entities and many changes have been positive (famously the Arya and Tywin scenes in S2). I don't give a shit at all that they cut Strong Belwas entirely and had Daario fight the champion of Meereen, for example. I just can't even fathom why making Jaime a rapist was a good idea though. It took a lot to get people to root for him after the attempted murder of a child, but that's why his arc is so great. Now all the good in him will be overshadowed by turning a consensual (but admittedly in poor taste) sex scene into a rape.
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:42 AM   #98
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Once again, Arya/Hound is the clear standout. Pure joy.

I do love the tense and smoky Sansa/Littlefinger open, as well as Oberyn's shit-talking.

The winners of tonight's episode:

2. Sansa/Littlefinger
I wouldn't call Sansa a winner. Yes, she's out of the snakepit that is King's Landing. But ending up with Littlefinger might not be much of an improvement.

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Daario, played by Dutch actor Michiel Huisman. Yeah, his fighting scene was badass. One throw, one cut and that pissin' champion and his horse were dead.

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3. Jon Snow - Fuck this guy, he's lame
How come? He did very well in my eyes. Showing some leadership, probably pissing off Alisser Thorne (the acting Lord Commander). OK, pissing him off might not be that preferable, but at least he thought things through.

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Why are they the losers of the episode? They weren't badass winners by beating that Meereen warrior, but that doesn't automatically make them losers, IMO.
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He is saying they were losers because Daario is the most likely now to get to have sex with Daenerys.
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As if the others ever had a chance (especially the one who commands the unsullied army ).

Then again, I should've known better. That was GAF speaking, the one who loves young women fucking.
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Old 04-21-2014, 01:24 PM   #101
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That scene was painful. Just unnecessary.

Maybe it's because Joffrey is dead, but the episode was the most lackluster yet. Sansa's story is finally moving along but that's all. And the hell is winter going to come after all the hype from Ned Stark and those white walkers? Also that scene in the pleasure house was also pointless and didn't advance anything. Just an excuse for being gratuitous, that's all.
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Completely unnecessary and undoes all the strides in character Jaime made in S3. I'm not going to quibble over changes to the books because they're two separate entities and many changes have been positive (famously the Arya and Tywin scenes in S2). I don't give a shit at all that they cut Strong Belwas entirely and had Daario fight the champion of Meereen, for example. I just can't even fathom why making Jaime a rapist was a good idea though. It took a lot to get people to root for him after the attempted murder of a child, but that's why his arc is so great. Now all the good in him will be overshadowed by turning a consensual (but admittedly in poor taste) sex scene into a rape.
It sounds like this may simply be a terrible case of direction, because here's director Alex Graves' talking about the scene:

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Well, it becomes consensual by the end, because anything for them ultimately results in a turn-on, especially a power struggle. Nobody really wanted to talk about what was going on between the two characters, so we had a rehearsal that was a blocking rehearsal. And it was very much about the earlier part with Charles (Dance) and the gentle verbal kidnapping of Cersei's last living son. Nikolaj came in and we just went through one physical progression and digression of what they went through, but also how to do it with only one hand, because it was Nikolaj. By the time you do that and you walk through it, the actors feel comfortable going home to think about it. The only other thing I did was that ordinarily, you rehearse the night before, and I wanted to rehearse that scene four days before, so that we could think about everything. And it worked out really well. That's one of my favorite scenes I've ever done.
So I guess it's not supposed to be a rape? Just a horribly put-together scene?
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Regardless of intention, calling a scene like that one of your favorites is a pretty idiotic comment to make.


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Favorite scenes he's ever done? Poor choice of words.

That's the second time Game of Thrones has turned a consensual yet awkward sex scene into rape. Remember Daenerys' wedding night? Even the two actors there admitted to being uncomfortable. Chances are, so we're Heady and Coster-Waldau. Actors sometimes have to do what they're told.
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I wouldn't call Sansa a winner. Yes, she's out of the snakepit that is King's Landing. But ending up with Littlefinger might not be much of an improvement.
I think you're reading too much into my post. I was just sketching out my thoughts on the parts of the episode I liked, and the parts I didn't like. Not necessarily whether the characters themselves are in good positions within the bigger story. I got a kick out of the Sansa/Littlefinger opening scene. Therefore, they were one of the winners of the episode, in my mind.

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How come? He did very well in my eyes. Showing some leadership, probably pissing off Alisser Thorne (the acting Lord Commander). OK, pissing him off might not be that preferable, but at least he thought things through.
I don't like Jon Snow all that much. I never really have. Sorry. The Night's Watch shit, and all the shit north of the wall, has been my least favorite area of focus on this show since Season 1.
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She'll be safe in a whorehouse? Really Sam?
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