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Old 09-17-2008, 10:19 PM   #31
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For the Sci-Fi channel, eh? That could end up being less than awesome.

Hawks? That's not one I'm familiar with. Is Kurt in it? Snake 4 president.
When they put money into something, like BSG or Stargate, it can be good.

Howard Hawks directed the '50s one. Every movie should have Kurt Russell in it though.

You know what Jack Burton always says at a time like this? 'Ol Jack always says... what the hell?
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I haven't watched this series yet, but I would like to check out an episode or two when I get the time and after I get caught up on Mad Men.

That could be a disastrous transition

you may want to throw in a couple of episodes of Chuck, between the two
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Haha Chuck! Is that any good? It's the one with the smokin hot blonde in the previews right?
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You know what Jack Burton always says at a time like this? 'Ol Jack always says... what the hell?
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Muldfeld - you don't like JJ, do ya?

All I know about this show is that Pacey is in it, and I'm disgusted with myself for knowing the characters name was Pacey. Fuck. I have no desire to watch.
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Muldfeld - you don't like JJ, do ya?

All I know about this show is that Pacey is in it, and I'm disgusted with myself for knowing the characters name was Pacey. Fuck. I have no desire to watch.
Or Charlie Conway, for all you Mighty Duck fans out there.
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Muldfeld - you don't like JJ, do ya?

All I know about this show is that Pacey is in it, and I'm disgusted with myself for knowing the characters name was Pacey. Fuck. I have no desire to watch.
Yeah that was pretty much my issue with it, too.

I kept getting annoyed at how they kept calling the female lead "honey" or whatever all the damn time, too.
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I watched the 1st ep, haven't watched the 2nd yet (it's in the DVR). It was OK, I'll probably keep watching it unless it descends into suckage...Terminator is better though.
I agree Terminator is much better. It's not BSG or 4400 quality, but it's more rich in plot and character than T 3, and could, if it improves, become more dramatically interesting than T 2.

However, one thing Fringe does have is writer Darin Morgan. I'd love to see something from him!
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Muldfeld - you don't like JJ, do ya?

All I know about this show is that Pacey is in it, and I'm disgusted with myself for knowing the characters name was Pacey. Fuck. I have no desire to watch.
That's pretty funny! I, too, am embarrassed, but I explain it away because I used to joke in undergrad about how bad the show looked (I even knew a hetero guy who loved it and bought the DVD set, but was a total selfish bastard) and only remembered the name because TV reviews for Fringe kept mentioning it.

He's the archetypical cool guy. He seems okay on talk shows, but what do I know. You should probably check it out yourself just so you're sure, though.

I'm upset because J.J. keeps getting everything he wants while harder working writers like Ira Steven Behr get pushed to the sidelines from trying something inspired by the political issues they care about. If you look back at DS9, there's so much that's now obvious in the post-9/11 world about occupation and terrorism and how war time tempts supposedly great peoples (The Federation and even Sisko) to be underhanded; the Maquis (named after the WWII French Resistance) were terrorists that Sisko hated, but the viewer could understand for not wanting to be newly occupied by Cardassians; Michael Piller started that theme, but his work on Voyager was subpar, perhaps because Paramount and Berman really dumbed things down; Piller hired Ron Moore and handed things over to Behr in Season 2, but died of cancer a few years ago.

Also, the enemy on both DS9 and The 4400 were never evil, but very much understandable and relatable in philosophy to those in our own world. Behr is also just a really humble guy, and I'll never forgive that bitch Bonnie Hammer for interfering with the content of The 4400, give it a tiny budget so it found it hard to afford good background actors and good directors, let alone location shoots and set pieces. I feel so badly for the guy; he was heart-broken when the show was cancelled. I still haven't watched the finale, but I will in a few months.

In comparison, Abrams is a hack. Paramount originally had Eric Jenderson of "Band of Brothers" who spent a year writing a totally new story for Star Trek set between Kirk and Next Gen, I think. I wasn't a huge fan of the miniseries, but he was approaching things from a very unique perspective. Then Paramount heads changed and the calculating bastards dumped Jenderson and gave Abrams complete free reign to do his superficial shock and awe. So unfair.
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How's Abrams a hack if he wants to explore a different type of science fiction than your boys Ira Steven Behr and Ron Moore?
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Didn't make it through the first episode -- too boring.
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A hack is someone who does what the suits tell him to do. Abrams can pretty much get any project HE wants off the ground. He's in the driver's seat. Now you may think he's lowest common denominator sci-fi, but he's doing what he wants to, hence not a hack.

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A hack is someone who does what the suits tell him to do. Abrams can pretty much get any project HE wants off the ground. He's in the driver's seat. Now you may think he's lowest common denominator sci-fi, but he's doing what he wants to, hence not a hack.

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Old 09-22-2008, 02:09 AM   #44
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I watched the first episode, and thought it was ok, certainly nothing special, and really it was ridiculously far fetched - I can't watch anything slightly 'medical' without tearing it to pieces - don't get me started on how impossible it was for the dude to be in an induced coma, but just lying there without monitors, ventilator etc etc

Anyway, it did have Joshua Jackson in it tho, and I've missed seeing him on tv. But I'm not sure that's enough to keep me watching.
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so I am 24 minutes into episode 3

and yeah,
it sucks

I got a Shield episode on TIVO

so not all is lost.
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