LuckyNumber7
Blue Crack Addict
It doesn't help that half of the characters are undeveloped and look exactly the same.
I don't think Maddie supports torture, but she understands that it might have to be used. Daniel and Griselda were good people who were forced to do bad things to survive. Griselda was admitting such when she was on her deathbed and talking to "death" as it came to get her.
The clothes the drug-addict kid is wearing, those are the same clothes he stole off the old guy in the hospital room in the first episode, right? I realize he's fucked up and all but he hasn't changed his clothes at all?
Well I have to draw the line somewhere. One of the worst shows ever, that I've allowed myself to watch.
Fear the Walking Dead is getting its own spinoff... A web series. If that helps.
I get that, but what bugs me is that an episode and a half ago they couldn't agree on killing the neighbour who had turned and now they're into torture? I can totally see them getting there eventually, but the characters don't know what we know. They don't know what the world out there is like. Even all knowing torturer, who's had to do awful things to survive, doesn't know. They've seen some people turn and a tiny riot and now they live in a littlegatedquarantined community.
They have doubts sure, like seeing the people in the house across the city being shot, the sick being taken away, etc., but it's quite a jump from doubting if all is as it seems to full on torture of the first soldier they can get their hands on. I just don't buy it I guess is what I'm saying. We needed to see the world fall apart to understand the characters.
I don't find any of the characters particularly unlikeable. But again, I am not so interested to find out if all the kids can get along or not, I want to see what's happening out there. That is what they teased us with, see how it all began, not watch a family struggle through a complicated time in their life while the world happens to end.
Yeah, it will be a 16 part series that will tie in with the next season of FTWD. It doesn't say how long each episode is, though. Which makes me think the episodes will be shorter in duration than FTWD.
Are you fucking kidding me.
Totally disagree with pretty much everything you're saying.
They're really not spending much time on showing us if the kids can get along or developing characters at all.
We are seeing how it all began. It just so happens that there are protagonists. Is that a surprise? Sure, we're not seeing what's "out there," but would that's only because they're fenced off. What we're seeing is how quickly law and order broke down and America became a police state (or military dictatorship). I certainly didn't see that coming.
The relatively quick willingness to torture also makes sense. They're living with a man who was a torturer, who lived through a military coup, and he knows the signs. It's not like everyone was into the torture, or even knew about it. The Ophelia was aghast, teacher mom (I forget her name) was against it but was convinced, and her boyfriend was also pretty pissed until he heard the information that was gained from it. Nobody else knew about it. It's not like they had a picnic and the soldier getting skinned was the entertainment. The only person who was into it - and even that's a stretch, since his guilt was powerful - was the man who'd been a torturer.
We don't need to see "the world" fall apart to understand the characters. We just need to see their world fall apart, and we certainly have seen that. The quarantined community is more like a refugee camp, or a prison camp: they have seen soldiers kidnap and assault their family members while not telling them what's going on. They've seen soldiers break promises and that they are being treated as the enemy. They know that civilians are being executed on the streets.
What do you think that they should know that they don't? Here's what they know:
they're basically imprisoned in their own homes by people who are kidnapping their family members and taking them to an undisclosed location for unknown reasons
civilians are being killed in the streets
people are being executed across town
the dead are coming back to live
there is no radio, television, internet.
there are electricity rations.
and oh yeah, the dead are coming back to live and soldiers are kidnapping their family members. they've seen things collapse pretty severely, and it doesn't take much for people to become violent and do things they never thought they'd do.
I agree with her. It seems as though they got off to a more mature start than my suspension of disbelief would allow for. Torturing a soldier after a day or whatever? Cmon. For all they know, the entire government still exists. And they're going to prison for the rest of their lives (or they're committing murder and getting away with it).
"They" didn't torture the soldier. A torturer did in order to find out where his wife was and exactly what was going on. He explained his motivation pretty clearly. "Once they take you, you don't come back."
Yes, they may think that the government still exists (and it probably does), but it's becoming clear to them that they are being treated like they're the enemy. The junkie son was punched and kidnapped, the torturer was told he'd go to the hospital with his wife and then he wasn't. Travis saw people being executed, and Madison knows the army killed civilians in the streets. The government is not their friend, and by the end of the last episode they all know that.
Remember that Travis still had faith in the army until the end of the show, and Madison was troubled by torture, though it was more knowing it was happening than that it actually occur. That's pretty much ripped from the headlines, isn't it?
Also, they haven't killed anyone. The soldier is alive.
Ugh that was actually terrible.
This show assumes way too much maturity from its companion show. They've been how many days "in the know" about the disease? And bitch is asking for assisted suicide? I don't care how many patients she's seen. They have no idea what's out there -- good or bad. Treatment or not. I doubt she would go out so fast, so healthy. My ass. It's like the writers forgot that this series was supposed to be about the initial outbreak. Either that, or they think everyone from Georgia is dirt fucking stupid.
Finale was easily the best episode of the first season.
So this confirms you no longer being a FTWD viewer, right? You should email the creators of the show with your grievances. One would gauge that in Liza's professional opinion, being among the infected/zombies is like a lot bad and that her quality of life would be greatly diminished.