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Old 08-04-2013, 07:41 PM   #316
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This is absolutely Brilliant
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Old 08-05-2013, 01:23 AM   #317
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They didn't have to pick a white dude. Just a great actor.
I suppose no one held the BBC or Moffat hostage when they made the decision, no, but 14 for 14 (Cushing and Hurt) speaks to a pretty clear informal template of picking great actors.....who are white. In this role of all roles, they need to bother to make it a little more explicit why the casting is so narrow considering the theoretical ability to cast anyone on the planet.
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:34 AM   #318
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Considering 9 of those you mentioned were from a period where there was no way in hell that was even a possibility, I think you're exaggerating.

I guess having the first black companion and and a black boyfriend of a white companion and the elastic sexuality of Captain Jack isn't enough progress for you.

Maybe talk shit about the Bond producers instead. They've been casting since 1962 and all they've given us is a female "M".
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Old 08-05-2013, 01:12 PM   #319
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Did someone just mention 9?
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Old 08-05-2013, 10:42 PM   #320
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....I just want to put the clearest distillation of my thoughts out there; which is that casting "against" previous actors in the role (to some degree), is considered wholly ordinary and uncontroversial in terms of age and physical presence. Everyone's curious about how Capaldi will channel that difference from Smith/Tennant and fine! Great. But there's also a small segment of the fans that really freaks when race or gender is brought up, because it's uncomfortable defending the inertia of "white male = default". Which is not a trap you have to be be a scheming eeeevil KKK member to fall into, and is I think closer to the nature of how Moffat occasionally falls short on these kinds of issues.

So that grinds my gears.

Anyway, that's not designed as a backhand commentary on you, laz, or anyone in this thread, but against kind of a strawman compendium of internet comments that annoyed me. I certainly think reasonable people can disagree on how to value something different against perfectly nailing a more familiar type.
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Old 08-10-2013, 12:56 PM   #321
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Well according to Neil Gaiman the role has been offered to a black actor before (he specified not for the new Doctor though), but he turned it down.
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Old 08-13-2013, 01:21 PM   #322
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Idris Elba ? (again )
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Old 11-09-2013, 06:01 PM   #323
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The first trailer for The Day of the Doctor is here!

The Day of the Doctor: The Second TV Trailer - Doctor Who 50th Anniversary - BBC One - YouTube

 
I'm very happy to see Ten back. I can tell the playful bickering between Ten and Eleven is going to be awesome. I love that "I don't like it" line about redecorating. Nice throwback to the classic series. Plus, the trailer offered enough of the plot to make me more excited but not enough to give anything away.
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Old 11-09-2013, 10:05 PM   #324
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Yeah, that part of the trailer was really exciting. I did see a promo photo that had Hurt, Smith and Tennant posing side-by-side in the TARDIS and it felt painfully clear that Eccleston would have been an amazing get to complete the set. But I guess I can't complain too much about John Hurt.
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Old 11-14-2013, 06:52 PM   #325
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The Night of the Doctor: A Mini Episode - Doctor Who: The Day of the Doctor Prequel - BBC - YouTube

Classic Who fans, this has a treat for you.

 
I am so, so damn happy they brought back the Eighth Doctor. Always loved McGann's performance and I feel like he needed another chance to shine. An amazing mini-sode that has me immensely excited for the 50th
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Now I'm going to be even angrier if Baker and Davison don't show up.
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Old 11-14-2013, 10:23 PM   #327
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continuity porn!

 
if he was willing to come back, it seems it'd be simpler just for McGann to be the bad Doctor instead of John Hurt. although maybe they wanted the flashier guest.
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The BBC certainly wanted the flashier guest.

McGann is a good actor, but I really DGAF about the 8th Doctor. Proper respect should have been paid to the other surviving Doctors by either casting them in other parts so they could at least appear recognizably on screen, or allowing them to don their old costumes and play the role itself. As far as continuity goes, the writers have never had a problem with ridiculous explanations for bending/breaking rules of logic, canon, etc. so not sure why this would be a stumbling block.

I'll reserve final judgement until the special airs because part of me is still hoping that Moffat did some great stuff in top secret fashion as a surprise.
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^ But both Paul McGann and Christopher Eccleston are hot
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Old 11-23-2013, 11:28 PM   #330
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Something is better than nothing, I guess.


 
Tom Baker's appearance is an instant all-time classic. Like, goosebump-inducing in how haunting, charming, and poignant it was. And it's nice that they let him be the one to set the next big plot arc into motion.
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