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Old 05-17-2011, 03:14 AM   #166
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I seem to be the only one who didn't find this episode to be a masterpiece.

Totally lame that the "old" console room turned out to be Tennant's. Big fucking deal.

They should have recreated the Tom Baker-era room; I can't imagine that costing very much.

And for all the running through the various hallways of the TARDIS, it was pretty unimaginative, especially compared to what we got to see in Castrovalva, which probably had nowhere near the budget they're getting now but gave us a very expansive look at the Cloister Room, the Zero Room, etc.
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Old 05-17-2011, 02:53 PM   #167
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This is what Neil Gaiman had to say in an online chat:

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Why did you use the Tennant era TARDIS as the alternate control room? I would have loved to have seen an earlier version? SPT777
So would I. But I was not able to reach any of the earlier producers in time and ask them to keep their sets up.

Because I came up with the story before the Year Four Specials aired, I was able to ask them to keep the Christopher Ecclestone TARDIS interior. It stood in the studio for an extra eighteen months, and they lied to anyone who came past about why it was still there.
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Yes, things changed when it slipped story arcs. It became Rory and Amy, not just Rory[think he means Amy], which meant changing the way that the House toyed with them/kept them busy while it took over the TARDIS. It meant that the TARDIS was no longer trying to warn the Doctor about the events of The Big Bang, or how he could get out of it.
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Old 05-17-2011, 05:42 PM   #168
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Whatever. I still say rebuilding what was already a cheap-looking set couldn't possibly have cost that much. And there's no way the actual console isn't intact somewhere.
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Old 05-17-2011, 06:42 PM   #169
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I think you underestimate budget constraints at the BBC. They were also initially meant to show the swimming pool but it got pulled due to finance.
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Old 05-17-2011, 07:42 PM   #170
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I'm fairly ignorant of Ye Olden Who, but as a general guess I would agree that replicating what they did cheaply in the 60s and 70s probably wouldn't be that difficult, but it would require a lot more effort to not look like ass on an HDTV or clash too strongly with the modern aesthetic.
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Old 05-17-2011, 08:45 PM   #171
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Actually, I think it's the opposite. Part of why post 60's who looked so cheap was because it was being taped on video instead of film, at least the indoor scenes.

Had they shot that old console room on HDTV, it wouldn't look that bad.

You really should try to seek out some classic Who. If you can get past that budget cheapness, there are some great stories, and of course some of the actors playing the Doctor are really great.
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Old 05-18-2011, 03:37 AM   #172
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Two really modest spoilers for next week:

 
The Muse song "Supermassive Black Hole" is probably going to be played in the TARDIS (combination of "Supermassive Black Hole in the TARDIS" and "Muse/Dusty Springfield will be heard" individual spoilers)

It will join the proud ranks of Britney Spears' Toxic in the annals of pop-culture Who glitz

Rory does, in fact, make a joke about his deaths. So there's that.


Video, instead of film. Hmmm. Yeah I've given a superficial effort to look at some of the older versions, and I'm interested in seeing Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker some more. It's hard for my brain to process William Hartnell as the same guy though. He's...so old! Disadvantaged by being the first one out of the gate, I suppose.

There are also some Torchwood tidbits coming out, both of which sound depressingly off: a Starz promo that played some clips over generic music that sounds like your local news broadcast's 6pm breaking news music, and a web series with Eliza Dushku airing parallel to this season called, I kid you not, "Web of Lies".
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Hartnell's stuff is largely lame, to be honest. Troughton is a step-up for sure.

But you might be better starting with Pertwee. His first four stories are very good, particularly 3 and 4 (The Ambassadors of Death and Inferno) which are both pretty epic.
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Old 05-21-2011, 06:29 PM   #174
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The Rebel Flesh:

Somewhat of a generic genre experience, but reasonably well done and with a decent idea underpinning it. I think I said something similar about The Black Spot, but that was worse than this. Actually I might compare it to an older X-Files episode from when they were still based in Vancouver. Gray, murky, but has atmosphere.

Jennifer was the worst part of this, I hated her scenes. And they keep handling the running plot elements in a ham-handed way with gratuitous redundant shots of the Doctor staring at the Schrodinger's Baby on the monitor, and the eyepatch lady staring at Amy. I don't mind the elements! You need to do something different with it, otherwise its treading water.
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Can anyone recommend a reliable torrent site for me so I can watch today's episode of Doctor Who? It seems Pirate Bay has had it's servers seized and I really, really need my Doctor Who.

Love, your tv-less sitemate,

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I use Kickass Torrents. Awfully convenient for me on the West Coast, as the torrent is usually ready around 1pm.
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I use Kickass Torrents. Awfully convenient for me on the West Coast, as the torrent is usually ready around 1pm.

Thank you! Panic attack averted!
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That sucks about Pirate Bay. I'm glad I got my torrent from them early this time.
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That sucks about Pirate Bay. I'm glad I got my torrent from them early this time.
They seem to be back again. Maybe my googled information was incorrect. Hmmm...
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Here's a slightly better version of the Torchwood Miracle Day trailer:

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