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Old 04-01-2012, 09:57 PM   #331
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^^^^*Nods* My personal sentiments exactly.
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:28 PM   #332
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Even though Chevy has a mile-long list of reasons why he's a jerk, I have to say that Dan Harmon is coming across like a jerk in this, too.
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Old 04-02-2012, 10:07 PM   #333
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Oh, absolutely. I heard the thing about him ragging on Chevy at the wrap party-not a classy thing to do by any stretch.

They both need to grow up. I don't want one of my favorite shows being ruined because a couple guys can't get over themselves and their petty squabbles.
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Old 04-02-2012, 10:13 PM   #334
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They both need to grow up. I don't want one of my favorite shows being ruined because a couple guys can't get over themselves and their petty squabbles.
this.

as it's been said, chevy needs to make certain he's sure he wants to potentially throw away his only successful thing in 20+ years. the show didn't drastically change formats so he just comes off as whiny and biting the hand that feeds him. and dan ragging on him at a wrap party and playing the voicemail for people is immature at best.
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Old 04-02-2012, 10:32 PM   #335
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We were at Harmontown. Dan didn't play any voicemail but he did read the incohesive text messages that Chevy sent. At the wrap party, apparently Chevy didn't get a joke and walked off the set. That was it, at least from what Dan said.
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Old 04-02-2012, 10:44 PM   #336
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To be fair, Harmon is notorious for being a jerk too.
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:27 PM   #337
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Dan Harmon came off as a jerk at the PaleyFest panel but he's the boss and it's his show. How many of us have worked for jerks? Do we get to storm off? Do we get to cry to the media about how unfairly we're being treated? No, we have to suck it up. Honestly, how much drudgery is this for Chevy Chase, even if Dan Harmon is the worst person in the world to work for (which I doubt he is)? He works like eight months out of the year. He needs to grow up.
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:21 PM   #338
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There's a boss who's a jerky boss, and then there's a boss who leads a crowd in a chant of "fuck you, employee!"

I mean, come on. Take the fricking high road. Everyone already knows Chevy's a jerk, you don't have to do something like that just to prove it further.

Why don't they just fire him? No one apparently likes him, he doesn't want to be there ... so ..... ?
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Old 04-03-2012, 07:22 PM   #339
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I’m really not supposed to be commenting on the situation, which I think is great advice, because anything I say will extend the story’s life and cause more fans discomfort. But as a guy who blogs or tweets every time he wipes his butt, hugs his cat or hurts his girlfriend, it’s conspicuously weird of me to say nothing at all about the giant fart with my name on it that you’ve been inhaling. It feels dishonest not to acknowledge it, it feels rude to the caring fans of the show, people who are tweeting me their concerns that I’ve jeopardized something they fight to protect, those are the sentiments that are [rightfully] the most painful because every choice I make, I try to make for the good of the show, and the show is not an expression of my ego or entitlement, it’s an expression of my desire to make strangers happy. When that’s not happening, when I’ve done something that hurts an audience, it’s always an accident. So I have to just acknowledge my mistake and apologize for it to the fans. Even the people that hate the show that are tweeting heckles at me are right, I’m a selfish baby and a rude asshole and not a person to trust with your feelings.
But the people that I really want to apologize to are the fans of the show. If you want to know what’s on my mind that I consider worth the attention of five million people, that’s the place to look, Thursdays at 8 on TV. Those are the stories and the jokes and observations about life and personal confessions that I intend for that large a venue. There is also a monthly show I do in the back of a comic book store in Los Angeles in which I say things that I intend for 150 people to hear. I tell stories about what an unlovable asshole I am and the trouble it causes for me. I rant and rave about the world’s failure to meet my standards, I talk about being drunk and stupid and heartbroken and childish and crazy and self-obsessed and self loathing and how much I love myself for it. The people that show up are paying ten dollars to listen to it, if you can believe that, and they made the drive out and put that cash on the barrel because they love or hate me but are fascinated by how much I fascinate myself - or their boyfriend made them go.
It was in that venue, months ago, that I made the horrible, childish, self-obsessed, unaware, naive and unprofessional decision to play someone’s voicemail to me. He didn’t intend for 150 people to listen and giggle at it, and I didn’t intend for millions of people to read angry reports about it. I was doing what I always do, and always get in trouble for doing, and always pay a steep price for doing. I was thinking about myself and I was thinking about making people laugh. I was airing my dirty laundry for a chuckle. I ask people at those shows repeatedly to please think twice about youtubing clips of it because it doesn’t play well outside the back of a comic book store. I always accept the risk that a well-intending fan will upload clips and something scandalous will break wide, but the giant mistake I made was involving someone else in that game of russian roulette, someone that didn’t have an opportunity to say “yeah, hilarious, let’s do this.” That was a dumb, unclassy, inconsiderate move on my part. I’m very sorry it’s reflecting poorly on the show.
It’s important to me that you not mistake this for someone thinking they’re making it better, or explaining that they’re actually a swell person. I’m explaining that you’re right, I’m a bonehead, and it sucks, it blows up in my face on a regular basis. I put an unhealthy amount of stock in the opinions of strangers, that’s exactly what makes me do stupid things, and, poetically, that’s what makes the punishment so effective. Thirty people a day calling me an asshole makes me know and feel, in my heart, that I am an asshole. I’m a real “customer is always right” kind of guy in that regard.
So, when you see me not talking about this, it’s not because I’m trying to get away with something, it’s because the more I say, the worse it gets. This is a topic that is driving ad sale revenue for a week but causing my favorite people in the world - Community fans - distress. So my desire, like yours, is to wait for it to pass. And don’t worry about the show. I agree with you that the show is what’s important. It’s why I get mad when I get mad. It’s why I’m happy when I’m happy. I will always do everything I can to make sure we get our six seasons and a move. I’m just really sorry that I’m so damn bad at that job in so many specific ways, and I promise you that every time I screw up at it, I try to get better.
Now I’ve got finish editing episode 319, and get politely scolded for commenting on the situation. If you’re reading this and you work in PR, I know, I know, I’m sorry and I’m not going to say any more.
And when have I ever let you guys down, right?
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Old 04-04-2012, 12:24 PM   #340
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Can we talk about how surprisingly epic NBC's previews for tomorrow's episode have been? When I realized the pillow fight was the 'war' they talked about replacing paintball I was pretty let down, but damn this episode looks like something new. I don't know if it's the way the episode is, but the preview is cut like a crowdsourced reporting from the scenes of a revolution, and that'd be a real stylish thing to do especially since this season has been lacking in style episodes because of the budget and the desire to be slightly 'less weird'.

"To those that say it was just a pillow fight, I saw: You. Weren't. There."
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Old 04-04-2012, 06:19 PM   #341
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I haven't seen any commercials for that episode yet here. But then again, I haven't watched a lot of NBC outside of "Community".

But I'll keep an eye out and see if I can catch one-the way you describe it sounds very cool, indeed. I'm excited to see how this second part plays out.
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:25 PM   #342
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Here it is!

Community Preview: Season 3, Episode 14 - Pillows And Blankets
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That went for like three seconds! Hardly "epic". I'm sure the episode will be though.
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Old 04-05-2012, 12:30 AM   #344
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Thanks!

I liked it! Very clever with the "documentary" thing, and I love the title being "The Day the Feathers Flew" .

Okay, I got that much more excited for tomorrow.
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Old 04-05-2012, 01:00 AM   #345
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