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Old 08-27-2012, 11:28 PM   #1
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Breaking Bad II - Always say "thank you" to Walt.

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Nice title. Though I had gotten used to the lowercase letters.
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I think the notes thing is over thinking, Gale had notes, one could get information from the Internet
Well to be honest I'm not really over thinking, I just like speculating all kinds of little things. But as far as Gale goes... whole nuther ballgame. Gale had a long history with Gus and there was loyalty involved. Not even the same with Walt and the new kid.



Anyway, if the cliff hanger doesn't involve Hank connecting at least a few dots to Walt, I'm gonna be a liiiiiitle bit disappointed.
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Great read

This in particular has been true for me:

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Once the truth came out, and Brock recovered, I read posts insisting that Walt was so discerning, so careful with the dosage, that Brock could never have died. The audience has been trained by cable television to react this way: to hate the nagging wives, the dumb civilians, who might sour the fun of masculine adventure. “Breaking Bad” increases that cognitive dissonance, turning some viewers into not merely fans but enablers.
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Fuck you Walter.
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As COBL said, great read

This part(among others) is interesting to me:

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The audience now waits along with Skyler, as the narrative builds toward a finale in which anything might happen, since there will be no need to keep us watching. (A baby might die, for instance, maybe by swallowing the ricin pellet that’s tucked away in the Whites’ home.) To escape this moral checkmate, Gilligan might shift yet another character into the foreground, revealing that the show is actually (as a friend suggested) a hero’s tale in disguise. In that version of “Breaking Bad,” the protagonist is not Walt but Hank, a man with no children.
I agree with this, I've felt for a while that in the end, BB won't be the story of Walter White, but of someone else. However, I'm not sure I agree that that someone else should be Hank. For me, the character I'm always rooting for, the character I want redemption for, is Jesse.

This kid has struggled so much with the guilt, the fear, the self-loathing that comes with what he's been doing, and that has eluded Walt for the past couple seasons. You can see how much he's grown as a person since the beginning of the series and how much he regrets so many things. Much credit has been given to Cranston in recent posts in this(and the old) thread, and absolutely rightly so, but I think it's a testament to just how incredible Aaron Paul has been that he's been able to convey nearly crippling remorse, guilt, and self-hatred so well and in such a raw way that we're able to sympathize with and root for a character that has been complicit in most of the things that Walt, a character we've come to hate, has done.

I want Jesse to win, to be able to start the rest of his life, and do whatever he wants with it, without having to look over his shoulder. Of course, the only real way to have an ending like that is to do something that some might find far too predictable:

1. Jesse somehow finds out the truth about Jane and Brock(no matter what, I'll be very disappointed if Jesse never finds out).

2. Hank and the DEA somehow latch onto Jesse again, with enough proof to know he was a major player, and to put him away, and they offer him the 'your boss for your freedom' deal.

3. Knowing what Walt did to Jane and Brock, Jesse is free from any loyalty or obligation to Walt. He takes the deal, tells all, Walt is arrested, and Jesse walks free, in the process setting Skylar, Walt Jr., and Holly free, and getting justice for Jane and Brock.

I'm sure some would hate that ending for being too predictable and too 'tied up with a ribbon', but I can't help it, it's what I want to see.
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Very good read there NSW. That sort of coverage makes me glad we still have 8 episodes next year to look forward to, even though the split annoyed me no end to start with.

Gonna weigh in with my take on Mike. He had an imminent exit in place, which was brought forward by the DEA. You could see the panic on his face (for the first time I believe) when Walt called to say they had his lawyer. Mike probably knew the lawyer would flip so he had to go immediately. So if Saul refused to get his bag and he wouldn't let Jesse do it, why not Walt? Yeah they'd had differences, but Mike was panicked and it was Walt who tipped him off in the first place. In that moment when he needed that bag NOW, Mike hastily accepted the offer from the one who had just helped him before. Works for me.
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+ 1 for Jesse triumphing in the end.
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I predicted that Jesse kills Walt in the old thread, so, I'm down.

And MS, I don't have a problem with Mike agreeing to Walt getting the bag....my problems are entirely with when Walt delivers the bag, Mike's complete lack of keeping his guard up around someone everyone (Mike first and more than anyone else) can see has become very unpredictable and dangerous. I'll stfu now cos I'm repeating myself, but, yeah.

Oh, and, glad you cats checked the link out, I thought it was a nice read, too.
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It was a great read.

I didn't see your prediction NSW, as I deliberately (I know, hard to believe, but I do!) avoid this place like the plague between the hours of 9pm Sunday and until I can *coughobtaincough* the show at some point on Monday

I also felt it a bit of a stretch that Mike would just turn his back on Walt like that, but this would not by any means be the first time we've been asked to believe when presented with a scenario that seems highly unlikely..so it's all part of the flavor of the show by this point.
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It was a great read.

I didn't see your prediction NSW, as I deliberately (I know, hard to believe, but I do!) avoid this place like the plague between the hours of 9pm Sunday and until I can *coughobtaincough* the show at some point on Monday
Oh, dude, it's not like I expect everyone to read my every post, just wanted to re-toss my hat into the Jesse triumphs ring.

I avoid this place like the plague for months at a time.
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Count me in the group wanting Jesse and Hank to win.
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Yeah, I agree that he should have had his guard up when dealing with Walt directly. All I can think of is that there was no reason Mike could see for Walt killing him.

I wonder how easy Walt finds murdering people from this point on? He's definitely going to point a gun at Jesse soon.

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So no one wants the Godfather Part II ending with Walt killing everyone and having to live with his own sins, huh?


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