Breaking Bad II - Always say "thank you" to Walt.

[LemonMelon]

Hahahahahahahaha enjoy the ending

Everybody we care about won big.

Spoiler

Unless you're a dumbass nazi.

 

[gvox]

This is how you end a series.

* SPOILER *

Spoiler

exactly

 

[Imperor]

I'm gonna dive into the Eastbound premiere now so I can stop feeling like shit.

 

[gvox]

Why is Jimmy Kimmel on Talking Bad? First off he's a dolt and secondly he brings absolutely nothing to the conversation. Did some intern fuck up and mix him up with Fallon?

 

[Lancemc]

This was about the least surprising episode of the series history. But that's only due to how fucking masterfully the previous two episodes set everything up. This was just perfect sequence after satisfying sequence of watching every inevitable piece fall into place.

Of course the clubhouse scene was tense as fuck. Good god.

 

[david]

It had to end the way it did.

 

[Irvine511]

This was about the least surprising episode of the series history. But that's only due to how fucking masterfully the previous two episodes set everything up. This was just perfect sequence after satisfying sequence of watching every inevitable piece fall into place. Of course the clubhouse scene was tense as fuck. Good god.

This exactly.

 

[bollox]

Yep. Well executed for certain, though anti-climactic in the wake of Ozymandias. What wouldn't be? That episode was just a series of gut punches and the payoff for just about everything that had been set up. Definitely the pinnacle of this season (series?)

 

[Lancemc]

Ozymandias and Granite State together are probably my favorite run in the series. Those episodes practically dictated an anti-climactic finish though. It's lovely. Not a let down really. I loved how quite the entirely of the finale was.... well aside from all the gunfire, logically.

 

[u2popmofo]

If only I could change my Interference status to "Blue Meth Addict" in support of the show. Great ending, great series.

 

[maycocksean]

Very satisfying ending. I'm sure deep will be disappointed.

I sure was rooting for Walt when he was with the Schwartzs. Their sanctimony is so annoying.

 

[Irvine511]

Very satisfying ending. I'm sure deep will be disappointed. I sure was rooting for Walt when he was with the Schwartzs. Their sanctimony is so annoying.

Agreed. They are such 1%ers.

What the finale lacked in unpredictability it made up for in craft, detail, and thoroughness.

It had a nearly impossible job and it performed it well.

 

[LemonMelon]

And, with another A from AV Club, Breaking Bad made it 5 seasons without a grade below B-.

 

[bollox]

I sure was rooting for Walt when he was with the Schwartzs. Their sanctimony is so annoying.

I guess living out the rest of their lives in waking fear of an assassin's bullet is a just punishment for being such douches.

 

[corianderstem]

i hate to say this, but i'm feeling underwhelmed

I had a bit of the same feeling.... but I don't know what would have made me feel better about it.

Well. "Better" isn't the right term. I don't know what I was expecting, but .... hmm. Glad that Jesse made it. Not that I feel good about rooting for him, either.

Edit: What Lance said, though. I think after I sit with the episode a bit longer, it will feel more satisfying.

 

[LemonMelon]

There were so many insane possibilities proposed over the past two weeks that what we received was bound to be slightly disappointing because we're being forced to settle on something. There are no more possibilities and few loose ends left to discuss. That is inherently disappointing.

Nonetheless, in time, most people will agree that this ending was about as good as we could have hoped for.

 

[lazarus]

That perfectly-placed automatic rifle sure worked out well, especially considering Walt has never been to their compound before. Killed everyone (apparently no one was standing guard outside) except the two villains who needed a final big moment for the camera to be executed by our two protagonists who both had personal grudges against them.

And yet, there's no time for even the shortest of conversations between Walt and Jesse.

FAIL.

A shame, as there was a lot of great stuff in this episode.

 

[gvox]

Technically, the gun fire killed Walt, too, so it wasn't exactly perfect. And, it's first victim was the lowlife standing guard outside the clubhouse.

No matter what the setup will hope to be during his meeting with Jack, Walt hopes to position the gun so as to kill/cut down as many of them as possible. When he drives through the gate and ignores his escorts direction on where to park and positions the car as best he can. If he had pulled straight up ie nose facing the clubhouse, the gun isn't facing the right way. So he pulls parallel.

A part that required bigger suspension of disbelief for me was Jack feeling so stung by the prospect of Walt dying with the belief that Jack was a liar, that he actually indulges Walt and delays his execution to prove it to him..nahhhh, he'd just say believe what you want asshole and kill him.

Then again,

Spoiler

he's just a fucking dumb as bricks Nazi

 

[u2popmofo]

If only I could change my Interference status to "Blue Meth Addict" in support of the show.

Thank you, Interference gods.

 

[lazarus]

Technically, the gun fire killed Walt, too, so it wasn't exactly perfect. And, it's first victim was the guard outside the clubhouse.

No matter what the setup will hope to be during his meeting with Jack, Walt hopes to position the gun so as to kill/cut down as many of them as possible. When he drives through the gate and ignores his escorts direction on where to park and positions the car as best he can. If he had pulled straight up ie nose facing the clubhouse, the gun isn't facing the right way. So he pulls parallel.

First of all, Walt had every intention of dying, so it doesn't matter that the gun shot him too.

Second, you don't have to explain to me why he parked against their instructions. Thanks.

The point is that he HAD NEVER BEEN THERE BEFORE. What if this meeting was in a basement? Or on the second floor? Or somewhere with walls that weren't that thin?

Come on. This was ludicrous. And the only two men left alive are Todd and Jack?

 

[LemonMelon]

Left unattended, Jack would have died as Walt eventually did. Are you indignant that he lived long enough to have a short conversation with Walt?

 

[lazarus]

Obviously he was fatally wounded. But giving them their big farewells was staged way too neatly, and just reeked of obnoxious treats for the fans.

 

[david]

I know, why try to please their viewers.

 

[lazarus]

Because it's impossible to do that in a more subtle fashion. Ok.

 

[LemonMelon]

Loved the song choice at the end, btw.

Breaking Badfinger.

 

[bollox]

The more I think about it, ending the show on Granite State, with the cops actually picking up Walt instead of the deus ex Charlie Rose springing him into action, would have been super ballsy but fitting. It would have also pissed off a lot of people. Kinda makes me appreciate The Sopranos finale more. (I'm not saying tonight's finale was bad, it was just conservative)

 

[lazarus]

Way too conservative. And mechanical, like ticking off boxes.

Also, Jesse had, what, like two lines of dialogue?

 

[LemonMelon]

If Ozymandias had been the finale, with Holly being dropped off at the fire station and Walt driving off to start his new life, I would have been OK with that. Loads of questions left to answer, of course, but the show would have ended with arguably its best episode and a functional ending.

Of course, what we received was much more satisfying.

 

[gvox]

First of all, Walt had every intention of dying, so it doesn't matter that the gun shot him too.

First of all, Walt did not necessarily have every intention of dying in the hail of his own gunfire. Seems to me he'd probably have taken a dive. His dive wasn't specifically to save just Jesse. He felt compelled to jump at Jesse yes because Jesse, due to the turn of events, ended up in that room. Jesse only ended up part of the equation because Walt needed to create a diversion to buy him a second to get his garage-opener trigger back. His initial intention would be to kill all the dumb Nazis and then rescue Jesse from whatever captivity they had him in.

Second, you don't have to explain to me why he parked against their instructions. Thanks.

Then again, I needed to remind you that he did kill the guard stationed outside too.

The point is that he HAD NEVER BEEN THERE BEFORE. What if this meeting was in a basement? Or on the second floor? Or somewhere with walls that weren't that thin?

Well someone had to have given him an address. Maybe he Google satellited the damn thing. And even if that didn't tell him exactly the layout, it would show him generally where it was, so then we must consider the geography here. I don't think many homes out there have basements, do they? Second floors? He took a calculated risk that it would be either in a bungalow or ground floor building, or they'd be standing outside around the car somewhere. I'm also curious to know how much thicker the walls would have to be to a. stay within believably general housing standards out there and b. stop those, what were they, .50 caliber bullets, from penetrating? None of this is a huge stretch at all.

And the only two men left alive are Todd and Jack?

They weren't the only two left alive. Jack was as good as dead. The dumb Nazi who was supposed to kill Walt was still twitching in the chair when Walt went for the gun. He probably died in the next second. Bitches were in various states of wounding and death.

 

[lazarus]

dumb Nazis

The dumb Nazi who was supposed to kill Walt