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Old 09-12-2013, 03:04 PM   #496
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It's a minority I'm in as well.


This sure doesn't help with my having trouble taking the show seriously.
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Old 09-12-2013, 03:06 PM   #497
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I wonder if this means Mike will make the occasional comeback, not to mention a steady diet of Kuby and HUELL. Spin-offs and cross-universe shows are a blast if they take a character and contour it to their point-of-view. No one would have expected a Frasier spin-off to be successful... then again, folks also clamored for a Joey series.

I'm happy that Bob Odenkirk gets consistent work.
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Old 09-12-2013, 03:11 PM   #498
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Laz, the show at its core is a semi-Shakespearean sci-fi pulp gangster western, either at different points or all at the same time. Why should you take it seriously? The re-iterations you mention are grating if you point them out; there are enough characterological complexes and shifting sympathies to make up for those more obvious moments, in my opinion. At what point did the show lose its luster for you?

I'm bummed that Sterling's Gold: The Erotic Journey to the Top of the Advertising World isn't being optioned. We can't always get what we want.
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Old 09-12-2013, 03:20 PM   #499
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Walt's "confession" to Jesse came as a result of his need to "explain" things to him.

remember how Walt went on and on about how Jesse just needed to have something like Brock's poisoning "explained" so that he would see things Walt's way and understand why Walt did what he did?

this was Walt explaining to Jesse. that's why he wanted to meet with him in the first place in the square and Jesse backed out. it's not that Walt was wrong to do what he did, but that he hadn't yet had the chance to explain it to Jesse.

sure, it's convenient, and compressed for time, as this is a TV show and not a documentary, but one gets the sense, based on attentively watching the show and paying attention to textual clues, that Walt had been rehearsing what he was going to say for a while, and it all came spilling out in a moment of extreme stress.
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I thought it was a little more bizarre that the skinhead guys would open fire knowing that Walt is directly in the line of fire. He's their meal-ticket. And then with all those shots poppin off, more bullets are hitting the truck and possibly Walt than are hitting Hank and Gomez? I don't care how they ended the episode, Hank and Gomez are deader than dead, they absolutely die in this gun battle.

the realization of Walt being in the line of fire is, i think, the only way Hank and Gomez live.

but they probably won't.

still, i'm more and more convinced that the phone call to Marie is a dramatic convention they want to subvert.

but probably not.
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If the spin-off is half as good as Chief Wiggum, P.I., we're in for a treat.
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Old 09-12-2013, 07:17 PM   #502
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Totally not interested in a Saul spinoff. I don't even like his character all that much. I realize I am in the minority on this one.
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Walt's "confession" to Jesse came as a result of his need to "explain" things to him.

remember how Walt went on and on about how Jesse just needed to have something like Brock's poisoning "explained" so that he would see things Walt's way and understand why Walt did what he did?

this was Walt explaining to Jesse. that's why he wanted to meet with him in the first place in the square and Jesse backed out. it's not that Walt was wrong to do what he did, but that he hadn't yet had the chance to explain it to Jesse.

sure, it's convenient, and compressed for time, as this is a TV show and not a documentary, but one gets the sense, based on attentively watching the show and paying attention to textual clues, that Walt had been rehearsing what he was going to say for a while, and it all came spilling out in a moment of extreme stress.
He still isn't dumb enough to explain it over the phone.
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It's a moment of panic in line with Walt's earlier behavior.
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Like right before Gus slit Victor's throat. He didn't shut the fuck up for like four straight minutes. It's kind of his thing.
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I'm not saying this was BB's smoothest move, but it's not that out of line with anything else that's happened over the past 5 seasons, and makes enough sense in context that it doesn't stick out for me.

For me, the biggest point of plot silliness is how Walt ever gave Brock the poison. But I didn't care, because the final 4-5 eps of S4 were so thrilling, and Gus' death so incredibly satisfying.
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For me, the biggest point of plot silliness is how Walt ever gave Brock the poison. But I didn't care, because the final 4-5 eps of S4 were so thrilling, and Gus' death so incredibly satisfying.
Yes, 100% this. It's a great example of the intent and repercussions being far more important than the how/why it took place. Also, a specific example of a plot point that isn't explained verbally -- the final push-in to the plant to end Season 4 is soul-crushing -- but how it's been up for debate among fans who stick more to the linguistic, literary side of storytelling. I find that divide fascinating.
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I think the biggest plot point of silliness is a straight-edge chemistry teacher becoming a cold-hearted murdering meth cook
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Walt's always been a piece of shit.
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It's a moment of panic in line with Walt's earlier behavior.
No, this doesn't happen with people. They establish one specific mode of behavior early on and never under any dramatic circumstances deviate. Dumbass.

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Yes, 100% this. It's a great example of the intent and repercussions being far more important than the how/why it took place. Also, a specific example of a plot point that isn't explained verbally -- the final push-in to the plant to end Season 4 is soul-crushing -- but how it's been up for debate among fans who stick more to the linguistic, literary side of storytelling. I find that divide fascinating.
His delivering the poison to Brock is a great little mystery that is allowed to elude us forever. Like it's one of Walt's particularly clever little schemes that even the creators of the show aren't in on. Love that scene when Walt visits the kid's house to ask his mother about Jesse, and he's all just like Oh hey Brock, sup, standing in the kitchen.
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