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Old 08-26-2013, 01:32 AM   #361
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Jesse, once again shows he is clueless and worthless

hopefully Jesse will be joining Jane and Mike soon.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:37 AM   #362
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Aaannnnndddd I'm back to hating Walt. That was quick.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:37 AM   #363
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How does reacting to the fact that Walt poisoned his girlfriend's kid make him clueless or worthless? Granted, he correctly assumed that Walt continually plays him like he does everyone else, but it's not like what he's selling -- Jesse leaving town to start a new life --isn't partly true.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:46 AM   #364
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the whole moping about the kid on the bike dying, drew, tossing two duffel bags with 5 million dollars in it out the window, he is so unstable, and always has been, he should have put in the ground a long time ago.

Walt shows goodwill by arranging for and paying for his trip out of town,
And it's not like Walt wanted to kill Brock, he did not use the ricin on him. He just wanted Jesse to try harder to help him get Gus after Gus took him out in the middle of the desert and told him he would kill him and all of his family.
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Jesse finally figures out the ricin? How convenient.

Once again, Cranston is given great material and some unexpected twists (the "confession") and Jesse comes out of his emo cave only to follow the generic demands of the plot.

Weak.
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:05 AM   #366
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Complaining about plot in Breaking Bad is really counter-productive. There were dozens of convenient situations, but those moments always pushed the characters forward and it resulted in some amazing drama with some of the best acting you'll find on TV, and of course, all packed with that unbearable Vince Gilligan tension (which started out with some of the best X-Files episodes like Pusher and Paper Hearts). Classic example in this episode was Walt in the car wash, waiting for shit to unfold.

They made the revelation perfectly believable as to how Jesse found out IMO. It could have been terribly contrived (how Walt found out Hank is up to Mike in the first half of the season comes to mind), so thank goodness they didn't come up with Jesse overhearing something, but I really thought they did a good job with it. And yeah, Walt's "confession" is one of Cranston's finest acting moments so far.

Amazing episode. This could rival season 4 of The Wire (greatest TV season ever made) in the end.
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Complaining about plot in Breaking Bad is really counter-productive. There were dozens of convenient situations, but those moments always pushed the characters forward and it resulted in some amazing drama with some of the best acting you'll find on TV, and of course, all packed with that unbearable Vince Gilligan tension (which started out with some of the best X-Files episodes like Pusher and Paper Hearts). Classic example in this episode was Walt in the car wash, waiting for shit to unfold.

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This exactly. There have always been things like that in the plot, but it's the incredible acting in these "impossible" situations that are what is great. It always has me on an emotional roller coaster.
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:51 AM   #368
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sorry, not that great at all


 


these are just the last 5 episode titles found on IMDB
with my speculation below


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S5, Ep12
Sep. 1, 2013
Rabid Dog
- more wacko Jesse



S5, Ep13
Sep. 8, 2013
To'hajiilee
- with Jesse off the reservation, Walt hides out on an Indian reservation


S5, Ep14
Sep. 15, 2013
Ozymandias
- the smartest man in the world - I'd say this will be Hank with Jesse ratting out Walt


S5, Ep15
Sep. 22, 2013
Granite State
- Walt has ridden the Vacuum exit express to NH


S5, Ep16
Sep. 29, 2013
Felina
- anagram for finale, variation of small cat, does Walt use this tactic to take Jesse out
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A couple more thoughts as to what the Achilles heel of this show always was - the whole plot of Breaking Bad is ridiculous in its convenience. Conveniently, the main character, who gets into meth cooking, has a brother-in-law who is a DEA agent. Conveniently, the cancer goes into remission as Walt gets his first big connections in the business, and the cancer comes back just as he made more money than he could spend and the final confrontations between the main characters are about to take place. The examples are endless. I have learned to ignore the plot contrivances of the show a long time ago.

There was a review where it was stated that one of the major complaints that the skeptics have about the show is that it is more plot-driven than it is character-driven and I couldn't disagree more. It's the characters and the crazy situations they find themselves in is what brings me back to this show. And I dare say it is "tension-driven". This is for sure the most nail-biting series that ever aired.
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One of the best episodes of TV I've ever seen.

And there are five more after this.

Fuck me.
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God lord, Walt's confession. Was anyone else just laughing out of disbelief?
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God lord, Walt's confession. Was anyone else just laughing out of disbelief?
Yeah, in fact this was my least favorite part of the episode because it was so unbelievable. But the rest of the episode made up for it, and I've long been willing to let a little suspension of disbelief allow me to enjoy this show.
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Oh, I didn't think it was a weak point. It was more that Walt is such a dick that I have no idea how I should even react to him anymore, so all I could do was laugh.

And alright, maybe I was also laughing because it was kind of ridiculous. But I love it when this show gets wacky. This season's been consistently funny as well as consistently tense, and that's exactly what I want it to be.
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Oh, I didn't think it was a weak point. It was more that Walt is such a dick that I have no idea how I should even react to him anymore, so all I could do was laugh.
Yes, that too.

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And alright, maybe I was also laughing because it was kind of ridiculous. But I love it when this show gets wacky. This season's been consistently funny as well as consistently tense, and that's exactly what I want it to be.
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I don't see how it is ridiculous. Walt's manipulations have been escalating over the course of the show and this is his biggest and smartest lie so far.

The point of the video is to buy time. Even though Hank is right, he also has only hearsay and circumstantial evidence to offer to the DEA. Walt has the same thing, and this blackmail is a warning to Hank that he has become an accessory after the fact due to the medical bills, and that he should "tread lightly", because any way this goes - Hank is in for humiliation of the highest order, which is something he dreads the most, since his insecurities were always related to how he was perceived.
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