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Old 01-16-2009, 01:57 PM   #241
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Goddamn where have I been?

I'm tempted to cancel my date now.










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Old 01-16-2009, 02:10 PM   #242
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If you DVR or record it, make sure it gets the whole show. Supposedly it goes over an hour by about three minutes.
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Old 01-16-2009, 07:23 PM   #243
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That's three more minutes of political relevance.
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:48 PM   #244
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So I watched all 9 webisodes and this much I now know:

A New Underworld film is getting released on 1/23.
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:09 PM   #245
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For the record, I thought tonight's episode kicked ass.

Looked like melon was right, right?
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Old 01-17-2009, 04:01 AM   #246
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My review of "Sometimes A Great Notion"

I really enjoyed the slower moments of this episode. It finally feels like the texture that was missing in much of 4.0 is returning to the series. I was surprised that Weddle and Thompson, the show's worst writers, were able to pull of some nice, soft character moments. I really like the plotting of this episode.

That said, Weddle and Thompson show a less complex and sophisticated understanding of how people cope with grief. Roslin's depression was rather boring and provided the actress with weak and cliche acting material. Even the plain suicidality, though an admirable topic for exploration, didn't feel as interestingly explored as it could have been.

I was very happy to see Ellen as the 5th cylon. Her death was the hardest to take in the series, though Cally was pretty tough, too. It had occurred to me when Ellen was not given any special features content on the Season 3 DVD or on any video blog. She was the hardest death to take.

While I have long disliked Dualla for her fascistic tendencies and jock-like manner -- albeit not nearly as much as Racetrack -- and I was already dreading Lee getting pulled back into this disaster of a relationship, I was struck by how much I was saddened by her death. It was beautifully conveyed, and I shall miss her. It was really brought home in Lee's very realistic and to-the-point explanation with tears in his eyes that "She shot herself." I started to well up a bit and really felt for them and not just her. That was far more powerful a scene -- in all its subtlety -- than the melodrama of Adm. Adama trying to get Tigh to shoot himself, although that had some nice moments and I liked the very underhanded way Adama was willing to let Tigh take the fall for his death.

I thought Leoben being confused and especially Starbuck's scenes felt fresh, and I was starting to feel that Starbuck would have been better off having died in Season 3, when I was getting annoyed at her quest in Season 4.0. Glad to see there's new stuff for her character.

In contrast to the awful Season 4.0 opener, for which I detested Weddle and Thompson, and gave a 7.3 out of 10, I give this a solid 8, maybe even a little higher. Well done, guys.
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Old 01-17-2009, 04:05 AM   #247
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What do you want the title to be. It's not a problem to change it.
Sicy, Phenan keeps doing this. Season 4 was last year. This is 4.5. He's just trying to be an ignorant, arrogant dick, which is typical of a lot of the people around here. The only nice people are uber beaver, deep, rihannsu (with whom I often disagree but always respectfully) and a few others whose names I don't know. Uber agrees on the show's political importance.
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Old 01-17-2009, 04:11 AM   #248
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Oh, and for all you cynical arrogant thwarters and mockers of the politically insightful tagline, eat it:
Art and Culture in the Bush Era | Newsweek Entertainment | Newsweek.com

"If artists depend on angst and unrest to fuel their creative fire, then at least in one sense the 43rd presidency has been a blessing. Eight years is an eternity in the life of a culture, and when we look back on an era, we do it through pinholes: a movie here, a book there. What will stand out, decades from now, as the singular emblems of this moment in history? NEWSWEEK asked its cultural critics to pick the one work in their field that they believe exemplifies what it was like to be alive in the age of George W. Bush.

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'Battlestar Galactica'
By Joshua Alston

An orchestrated terrorist attack. An inexorable march to war. An enemy capable of disappearing among its targets, armed with an indifference to its own mortality. It sounds like a PBS special on Al Qaeda. In fact, it's a synopsis of the Sci Fi Channel series "Battlestar Galactica," which—for anyone who manages to get past the goofy name—captures better than any other TV drama of the past eight years the fear, uncertainty and moral ambiguity of the post-9/11 world. Yes, even better than "24," with its neocon fantasies of terrorists who get chatty if Jack Bauer pokes the right pressure point. Of the two shows, "Battlestar" has been more honest about the psychological toll of the war on terror. It confronts the thorny issues that crop up in a society's battle to preserve its way of life: the efficacy of torture, the curtailing of personal rights, the meaning of patriotism in a nation under siege. It also doesn't flinch from one question that "24" wouldn't dare raise: is our way of life even worth saving?


"Battlestar Galactica" always finds ways to challenge the audience's beliefs—it is no more an ode to pacifism than "24" is to "bring 'em on" warmongering. In the pilot, humanity is nearly eradicated by the Cylons, a race of robots that revolt against their human creators. The only survivors are stationed on a spacecraft called Battlestar Galactica; they're spared because the ship's commander, William Adama (Edward James Olmos), had refused to relax any wartime restrictions. Adama is a hard-liner, willing to sacrifice personal freedoms in order to provide safety from an abstract threat. And he was right: the moment the human race let its guard down, the Cylons attacked. As the show unfolds, though, the survivors must constantly reflect on the price of keeping their enemies at bay, and whether it's worth paying. The show's futuristic setting—hushed and grimy, not the metallic cool of stereotypical sci-fi—helps ground the writers' ruminations in a nail-biting drama series. "Battlestar Galactica" achieves the ultimate in sci-fi: it presents a world that looks nothing like our own, and yet evokes it with chilling accuracy."

I would actually go farther in terms of the show's importance and influences. Many of the show's themes find their origins in Star Trek Deep Space Nine, which was written in the '90s and yet evokes the most pressing issues of war, terrorism, identity politics, and issues of security in a way that only came to the fore in the mainstream press after 9/11. So, for all its relevance today, it has greater historic importance as well.
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Old 01-17-2009, 04:16 AM   #249
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There's also this:

Variety.com - 'Battlestar Galactica' Farewell
with some military, religious, and political people commenting on the relevance of the show. The thread title should be changed back. This is not some escapist junk that only furthers the dulling of the American mind with false notions of the human condition like "Fringe" or "Lost."

Just listen to how the actors talk about the show:
Mary McDonnell:
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Old 01-17-2009, 07:43 AM   #251
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Sicy, Phenan keeps doing this. Season 4 was last year. This is 4.5. He's just trying to be an ignorant, arrogant dick, which is typical of a lot of the people around here.
Thanks for the name calling and the condescending attitude. I see nothing has changed. Thanks for proving us right.

If that's how you think people are around here, why even bother sticking around?

And it's phanan. Please learn to spell.
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Old 01-17-2009, 08:21 AM   #252
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Thanks for the name calling and the condescending attitude. I see nothing has changed. Thanks for proving us right.

If that's how you think people are around here, why even bother sticking around?

And it's phanan. Please learn to spell.
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I think I love him, even beyond platonic levels. He's a gorgeous creature.
Give the guy a break. He needs to share his burgeoning bromance with Baltar and also spread propaganda to all of the fan forums in the land. What would happen if Baltar liked the state of Israel? There will be blood.

I wonder if At Ease's BSG thread is getting these updates, too?
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Old 01-17-2009, 10:55 AM   #253
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Personally, I'm curious to see if Mudfield will be able to go through with his jihad when he realizes he's sexually attracted to NSW?

Next time on As the World Turns ...
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:04 AM   #254
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The only nice people are uber beaver, deep, rihannsu (with whom I often disagree but always respectfully) and a few others whose names I don't know. Uber agrees on the show's political importance.


I do not think phanan is a dick, though. NSW is a dick. Phanan is ok in my book though.
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Old 01-17-2009, 02:51 PM   #255
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Please change the thread title! PLEASE! How will people know this show is POLITICALLY RELEVANT if we don't tell them??

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