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Old 07-24-2012, 03:25 PM   #496
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I was surprised by how much I liked Catwoman, as I may have already said. I expect to kind of hate her, and I decidedly did not.

My biggest problem with the film was the lack of backstory for Bane. Not the person, but the villain. Like, where the fuck did the mask come from? It seemed like they were relying a bit too hard on the audience just knowing who Bane was and what the mask did, and I was kind of irritated with that throughout the film, waiting for the explanation to come.
His back story is certainly there, more than any of the previous villains, you're just talking about an explanation for how the mask worked. Which was implied, and I didn't feel we needed to know more about it's function ala Lucius Fox explaining things to Bruce.
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:34 PM   #497
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One last thing, another reason this was more enjoyable to me, Bale gets the chance to actually anchor the movie and has quite the arc, which is why despite its more modest scope and cast I always preferred Batman Begins to TDK, it's all about Bruce Wayne as a living, breathing and tortured person. Every previous Batman movie made Wayne nothing but his playboy image and even Batman plays second fiddle to the villains. Here they manage to create the epic scope and balance of the ensemble that TDK accomplished, while still allowing Bruce to have that great arc and depth.
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I really loved the interactions between Bruce and Alfred, I got a bit choked up when they had to split up, and on to Bruce's "death." Michael Caine is a tour-de-force in TDKR, for the little screen time he gets.

Not sure that I agree TDKR "stands on its own more." This film definitely brings the trilogy closest to being a cheesy, heartwarming action series. The entire plot is some shit about the hero being down on his luck and triumphing over adversity, and the ending is hilarious (if necessary; like Nolan would ever have the nerve to kill Batman). It's been done a thousand times, and less absurdly. It's not like TDK was a revolution in filmmaking, but it messed with your head a lot more. TDKR is more about brute force and pulled heartstrings, which is a weakness, but I can see why some would find it more appealing. You definitely want to throw up a bit when TDK ends.

I will say that the twist was a very pleasant surprise. I couldn't buy Bane as the sole villain. I knew he had to be answering to someone.
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:58 PM   #499
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I really loved the interactions between Bruce and Alfred, I got a bit choked up when they had to split up, and on to Bruce's "death." Michael Caine is a tour-de-force in TDKR, for the little screen time he gets.

Not sure that I agree TDKR "stands on its own more." This film definitely brings the trilogy closest to being a cheesy, heartwarming action series. The entire plot is some shit about the hero being down on his luck and triumphing over adversity, and the ending is hilarious (if necessary; like Nolan would ever have the nerve to kill Batman). It's been done a thousand times, and less absurdly. It's not like TDK was a revolution in filmmaking, but it messed with your head a lot more. TDKR is more about brute force and pulled heartstrings, which is a weakness, but I can see why some would find it more appealing. You definitely want to throw up a bit when TDK ends.

I will say that the twist was a very pleasant surprise. I couldn't buy Bane as the sole villain. I knew he had to be answering to someone.
so true on Caine's performances.. stellar IMO. And even the second time I got choked with those scenes with Bruce and death scene.
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Caine really had to do almost all the emotional heavy lifting in the movie. I've always been impressed with his spot on portrayal of Alfred and have enjoyed him in all three movies.

So, what did Bane's voice remind people of? I'd have to go with the Elephant Man as portrayed by Scrooge McDuck. But I could also hear it as General Grievous impersonating Sean Connory. Any other thoughts?
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But I could also hear it as General Grievous impersonating Sean Connory.
This. Perfect.
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Sean Connory.
I heard Connery when Bane said this:

"It doeshhn't matter who we arrrre... what mattersh ish ouuur plaan. No one cared who I washh until I put on the mahhshk."
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Wow, this film's been out for four days and its box office numbers have already surpassed its $250 million budget. Looks like it's on a good pace to pass up TDK's ridiculous $1 billion box office.
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This is a pretty unusual film series for me in that I find it especially difficult to rank these three films from best to worst. Much easier done with Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Spiderman, X-Men, etc.
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1. TDK
2. Batman Begins
3. TDKR
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Christian Bale popped 'round today to see the victims. A lovely gesture.

Christian Bale in town visiting victims of shooting - The Denver Post
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That's a nice gesture on Bale's part. There was a movement across social media to get him to do it in the Batsuit, which would have been the god damn stupidest thing I've ever heard.
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Yes. Not at all triggering or traumatic!
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That's a nice gesture on Bale's part. There was a movement across social media to get him to do it in the Batsuit, which would have been the god damn stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Yeah I saw that. My eyes nearly rolled out of their sockets. How contrived would that be??

At any rate, great stuff from Bale.
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"Sir, you can't park your car in the ambulance zone."

"THIS ISN'T A CAR."

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"Where are the shooting victims located?"

"I'm sorry sir, hospital policy prevents us from giving out that kind of infor--"

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