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Old 07-23-2012, 04:50 PM   #481
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Has anybody here read Knightfall? I found the differences and similarities with that storyline interesting. Nolan made it work. The Joker and Scarecrow (set free by Bane, as Catwoman is in TDKR) are in Knightfall and are actually a significant reason for the weakening we see in Dark Knight Rises that leads to Batman being broken by Bane. They had to omit Joker for obvious reasons. In addition, there's no Pit of Despair, and there is a replacement Batman enlisted during his rehabilitation. It's an interesting arc.
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Old 07-23-2012, 04:51 PM   #482
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I loved seeing Liam Neeson and Cillian Murphy pop up. Cillian especially - I gave a good laugh of surprise when we saw he was the judge.
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Has anybody here read Knightfall?
Next on my list. How far along did you read, it looks like it went on for a year or two between Bane breaking Batman and Batman later defeating Bane?
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Old 07-23-2012, 06:02 PM   #484
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I'm mostly just familiar with the Broken Bat and Who Rules The Night storylines. Knightquest is about Batman's replacement Jean-Paul Valley, and I haven't read that. His slow descent into madness and abuse of power sounds interesting. He actually becomes the villain for a while, not Bane.
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:21 PM   #485
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The nuclear hostage scenario was too weak to overcome my volume of nagging quibbles with the motivation and mechanics of the whole thing. Quibble Volume is not a killer problem in itself, it's something The Dark Knight overcame, but it did leave me feeling really underwhelmed this morning.
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:09 PM   #486
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The Pit of Despair almost seemed to me like Nolan's take on the Lazarus Pit.
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:18 PM   #487
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That's absolutely what it was.
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:32 PM   #488
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Also, I almost laughed at the "hooray, we're saved!" moment of the bomb exploding over "the bay."

Yay, nuclear fallout! Polluted waters! Don't eat the seafood ever again!

Despite my minor nits, I will surely see it again, hopefully at the IMAX.
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That's absolutely what it was.
I didn't wanna go and say absolutely, since the Lazarus Pit brings people back from the dead. But yeah. Nolan and his semi-realism take.
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Old 07-24-2012, 08:31 AM   #490
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Well, I was pretty fucking blown away. Didn't have a performance akin to Ledger's, but I really loved every single second. A very fitting finish to one of the best trilogies ever. My heart broke for Alfred when he was in front of the graves, but I love Hollywood endings, so I loved Robin and Alfred and Bruce seeing each other in Italy.

Scrolling back through all your thoughts, I guess the quibbles some of you had just didn't bother me. To those of you a bit about how he got back to Gotham, etc, it is a superhero movie. The most bemusing part to me was how he fixed his broken back with a poke from the old bloke and then a few chin ups.

I'm sure more thoughts will come to me, but my head is spinning at the moment. I was quite awestruck by what Christopher Nolan was able to do. My mind can't even fathom how you could create something like that.

Just finally, and please feel free to shoot me down for this, but did anyone feel like the ending was just a tiny, subtle wink to this scene from 60s Batman?

1960s Batman - The Bomb - YouTube

I know that's a very Morrissey-plays-Satellite-of-Love suggestion, but it did pop into my head, and I smiled.

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That's all you have to say? Not even going to comment on how big Cotillard's post-natal boobs looked?
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I'd be hard pressed to say this wasn't my favorite cameo in the trilogy:

 
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There were quite a few laughs from our hipster-heavy audience at that one.
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Likewise. And I also was one of several who chuckled at Littlefinger/Carcetti popping up in the first scene.

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*SPOILER ALERT* The Dark Knight Rises 1966 Opening Theme - YouTube
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I loved seeing Liam Neeson and Cillian Murphy pop up. Cillian especially - I gave a good laugh of surprise when we saw he was the judge.
"Death... by exile!"

The Honorable Judge Scarecrow presiding.
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I'll say it, it tops The Dark Knight in scope, ambition, emotion and yes, even the villain. And the full circle aspects returning from Batman Begins made it all the better. TDK wears its ambitions to be Heat crossed with The Godfather in a comic book movie openly, this installment manages to stand on its own a lot more. Perhaps the pacing isn't as tightly wound as TDK, but there's so much to keep your attention & keep you anticipating that it wasn't a drawback to me.

I don't have a lot of time at the moment, but probably what impressed me the most is the weight and history that's implied by the gap in the story throughout the film & its setting. When Batman first comes riding in again it's so much more powerful than just the first action sequence in any old sequel.

My two complaints though: I was really enjoying how they were setting Blake up to be a nod towards Robin, until the scene where they out & out named him that. . Also, as impressive as the IMAX resolution is, the switching perspectives was not nearly as seamless as it was in The Dark Knight, there's far too many scenes where typical widescreen ratio footage is intercut with IMAX footage and the transitions were often jarring and making the people seem squashed for a brief moment until your brain adjusts, only for it to go and switch again. Sure IMAX cameras are too loud to record any audio on set, but at this rate they should have gone full out with it, or at least shot the scenes that would feature it completely in the format. Of course this probably comes down to not being able to predict how the edit is going to come together while shooting, which is understandable.
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