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Old 01-13-2013, 10:45 PM   #76
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:46 PM   #77
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Jodie Foster did just state the obvious, yes?
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Yeah, she announced what everyone already knew.
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she is 50 years old and had to live in a world where being herself had complications that are not the same as they are today

hopefully we will get to a place where no one gives a damn, but with sin and shame still being the norm for many small minded people, we are still a bit fucked
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Old 01-14-2013, 12:01 AM   #79
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What happened?

EDIT: I used this fantastic new site called Google and found out...


...so, yeah, I thought that was already common knowledge?
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Old 01-14-2013, 01:12 AM   #80
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Jodie Foster's speech was one of the greatest I've ever seen on an awards show.

So moving and inspiring. A veteran, a maverick, a special voice.
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Bit for media outlets to be writing "Jodie Foster comes out as gay at Golden Globes", but still, a great speech and good on her.

I've seen Tina Fey and Amy Poehler's opening bit, which was great (though not as good as Ricky Gervais) and so was Kristen Wiig and Will Ferrell. I never knew what Wiig looked like until just now, and wow.
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Old 01-14-2013, 10:39 AM   #82
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...so, yeah, I thought that was already common knowledge?
I think that part was an "I've always been out in my personal life" speech, directly aimed at the people who have been trying to out her in her public life for 20 years. I have mixed feelings about celebrities not having come out when it mattered (having just watched How to Survive a Plague and reliving that period again: silence=death) but still respect that everyone has to decide for themselves and I'm not in their shoes. As a private person myself, I really can't imagine what it's been like for her (and others) and have to respect her/their choices.

She looks fantastic.
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Jodie Foster's speech was one of the greatest I've ever seen on an awards show.

So moving and inspiring. A veteran, a maverick, a special voice.


not everyone on the LGBT community is all that thrilled with her. a FB "friend" of mine who's also a movie critic has this to say:

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Still sorting out my feelings about the Jodie speech, but annoyance continues to reign supreme. She's played this coy card for decades, and gotten away with it mainly because a) the media of yore was happy to enable her, particularly because of their collective fear of Foster's iron-fisted publicist Pat Kingsley and b) anyone who has a presidential assassin use you as inspiration rightfully gets a lifetime "I want my privacy" pass.

But now that Foster's finally saying something concrete, she offers the same bullshit false equivalencies that famous closet cases always love to fall back upon. Do we know every intimate detail of the life of David Hyde-Pierce? Has Jane Lynch's life turned into a reality show? Is every private element of Neil Patrick Harris' personal business being transmitted into our homes 24/7? No.

But for Foster to imply that the only choices are refusing to come out of the closet or becoming Honey Boo Boo is at best disingenuous and at worst an insult to the many artists who have been much braver than Foster and who have stood up and been counted at a moment in our cultural history when famous people speaking the truth of their lives has been an essential element in the battle for equal rights.

And don't give me that "everyone comes out when they're ready" excuse; Foster, by her own admission, has been out to the people in her life for years. She has very intentionally remained publicly enigmatic, well past the point when being more forthcoming would have had the slightest impact on her private or her professional life. There was a time when having someone of her stature could have made a huge difference, and she chose to spend that time being silent.

So you'll forgive me if I'm not "moved" or "impressed" by Jodie Foster's "bravery." If anything, this is too little, too late.

my opinion is somewhat less strident. but i do take his point. and i'm certain the Hinckley/Reagan thing messed her up but good.







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yes indeed she does.
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my opinion is somewhat less strident. but i do take his point.
Yeah, me too.
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andrew sullivan:

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Full transcript here. Her date last night, believe it or not, was wife-abusing, homophobic anti-Semite, Mel Gibson. Would you entrust your young sons to a man with Gibson's violent and vile history? A highlight of her narcissistic, self-loving speech:

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I already did my coming out about a thousand years ago, back in the Stone Age, in those very quaint days when a fragile young girl would open up to trusted friends and family, co-workers, and then gradually, proudly, to everyone who knew her, to everyone she actually met. But now, apparently, I’m told that every celebrity is expected to honor the details of their private life with a press conference, a fragrance, and a prime-time reality show.
What unadulterated bullshit. She never came out until, very obliquely, in 2007. And virtually every coming out these days is low-key, simple and no-drama. I do not remember Anderson Cooper's press conference, fragrance or reality show. She goes on:

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[S]eriously, if you had been a public figure from the time that you were a toddler, if you’d had to fight for a life that felt real and honest and normal against all odds, then, maybe, then you too would value privacy against all else. Privacy. Some day, in the future, people will look back and remember how beautiful it once was. I have given everything up there, from the time that I was 3 years old. That’s reality show enough, don’t you think?
"How beautiful it once was"? When gay people were put in jail, or mental institutions, or thrown out of their families - all because of the "beauty" of privacy for Hollywood royalty like Foster? And she honestly believes it's courageous to come out in a retirement speech? Well I guess we should be relieved she didn't leave it for her obit. I defer to a reader's open letter:

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Dear Jodie Foster:

There's nothing wrong with not publicly acknowledging the open secret of your sexuality for decades as you so chose. There's also nothing wrong with choosing to kinda-sorta discreetly come out by thanking your partner in a speech in 2007. Yet there is something very tragic and self-contradictory about a bitter diatribe criticizing how other people choose to come out, officially announcing your sexuality on your way out the door of the industry in a non-coming-out speech because you came out "1000 years ago" - while simultaneously defending your fierce desire for privacy - in a brazen attempt to get some of the praise and love you now see the younger gay generation getting for their fearlessness of/indifference to being out... all while being escorted by one of the most well-documented anti-Semitic, homophobic, bigoted assholes in Hollywood history, claiming he "saved" you. If that was indeed your retirement announcement, what a sad end to a stellar career of a brilliant artist. If ever there was a closet you needed to stay in forever, it would be the one marked "Mel Gibson's friend."
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As far as I’m concerned, as long as a gay person hasn’t been actively pretending to be straight (like a number of people in that hall tonight are probably doing), I don't think she is required to be an activist or even a "role model" for younger LGBT people if she doesn’t wish to be. It is, of course, wonderful when big names like Zachary Quinto and Anderson Cooper have the courage to give up their hetero-privilege in a public pronouncement, and undoubtedly the increasing recognition that so many of our culture-makers are gay has the power to challenge perceptions. But in the midst of the noisy demand that celebrities be “loud and proud,” as Foster put it, the ostensible endgame of the LGBT equality movement can get drowned out: the ability to live our lives as we wish, freely and gently, in peace.
Yes, yes, yes. But the only way we were ever going to get past that oppression was through it. I'm thrilled Foster can now live a fuller life with less fear. I'm saddened she waited until others far less powerful had made the sacrifice to make that possible. And that she waited for the safest moment of all - winning a well-deserved Lifetime Achievement Award - to do so.

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Her friendship with Mel Gibson is disturbing.
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I don't see anything wrong with someone wanting to be an artist, and not a spokeswoman.

Fuck Sullivan; he's an idiot.
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The Master got screwed. That is all.
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Probably not for me to say, but some gay people are just as judgmental of each other as some straight people are of them. She's just being herself and not worrying what other people think of her and what other people want her to do. And I admire that. That's why she's still friends with Mel Gibson. I'm sure all kinds of Hollywood people have told her it's bad for her career and reputation, and at this point she doesn't care. Personally I would see issues with me being friends with someone like him-but she seems to put her loyalty to him, and long term friendship with him, above all of that. That's her choice and her life. How she reconciles all of it, well only she knows and I just think it's her business. He's a pariah in Hollywood now, so I'm sure he appreciates her friendship and loyalty. Maybe they've had good talks about his issues and maybe she's helped him, who knows.

I thought she was just making a general comment about our culture and how some people are so out there about everything in their lives, not about how any actor chooses to come out. I thought her speech was very moving, and I cried like the actresses there about the Mom stuff.

I have always liked and admired her, and she seems very happy with her life, her beautiful kids, all of it. She looks great too. Smart enough to speak off the cuff like that without a prompter, something most actors probably couldn't do.
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Also, can anyone tell me if that Lena Dunham just walks that way (that would be odd or maybe it was the fullness of the dress) or does she have a broken something or other? I just wondered what was up with that.

I loved Naomi Watts' dress, the burgundy with the long sleeves. Also when she was interviewed on the red carpet, no botox on that woman that I could detect. It was nice to see someone looking more real in that way. Maybe just in the forehead, couldn't see that. Jessica Chastain is so beautiful, she reminds me of the old Hollywood stars- but I hated her hairstyle and the dress just didn't flatter her as much as it should have. The color was beautiful. They're all more beautiful than I am anyway, so just being girly about it.
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