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Old 02-17-2011, 11:17 AM   #121
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I think The Kids Are Alright voters has more of a 'hipster' ? type fanbase, not a traditional story. and therefore would break more towards TSN than the 'traditionalist' King's Speech.

I just think Toy Story has more of a 'young' fanbase, and therefore would favor TSN.
Yeah I think there are both going to have diverse appeal which makes it even harder to predict what will happen. I see what you mean about Kids but I was just thinking that the film is similarly about a family weathering a storm together.
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Really? None? Not even for the writing and acting? Bening, Moore, Ruffalo, and the daughter were all very good.

I don't think the film is BP-calibre but you know, compared to The Blind Side it doesn't look like an embarrassing nom.
Well, I thought Moore was better than Bening, so I might feel differently if she was the one nominated. Ruffalo was good; I would rather have seen Hardy nominated from Inception or one of The Social Network people.



I liked The Kids Are All Right, I just don't think it was so praise-worthy.
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:22 PM   #123
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I have a feeling that Melissa Leo and Amy Adams will cancel each other out and Hailee Steinfeld will end up getting Supporting Actress. It's fairly split regarding actors nominated for the same film in the same category, though with the dumb uproar about Leo's ads and Steinfeld ostensibly being a lead in a supporting category, it could happen. All three performances are great.

There's something awesome about Amy "America's New Sweetheart" Adams having arguably the best sailor mouth of anyone else in The Fighter. I love David O. Russell.
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However good Leo was in The Fighter,
many may not want to reward anyone that has had anything to do with Treme.
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:41 PM   #125
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I have a feeling that Melissa Leo and Amy Adams will cancel each other out and Hailee Steinfeld will end up getting Supporting Actress. It's fairly split regarding actors nominated for the same film in the same category, though with the dumb uproar about Leo's ads and Steinfeld ostensibly being a lead in a supporting category, it could happen. All three performances are great.
Catherine Zeta-Jones and Queen Latifah were both nommed for Chicago, and the former won. She managed to beat out Meryl Streep for Adaptation (who had won the Golden Globe) as well as Julianne Moore in The Hours.

Leo seems to have won enough precursors to make it a lock, but the Steinfeld category fraud throws a bit of a monkey wrench into things.

I haven't even seen The Fighter yet so I can't really weigh in with my own opinion in terms of merit.
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There is very good merit to the work she does in The Fighter,
plus she has a pretty good body of work, most recently Frozen River.
and despite my huge disappointment for Treme, she should win.


As good as Steinfeld is in True Grit, and I think Grit may be the best film this year, it will hold up over time, as a very consistent production.

There is not that much range with that character, is she that good of an actress?
or did the casting director just hit the nail on the head?
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Catherine Zeta-Jones and Queen Latifah were both nommed for Chicago, and the former won. She managed to beat out Meryl Streep for Adaptation (who had won the Golden Globe) as well as Julianne Moore in The Hours.

Leo seems to have won enough precursors to make it a lock, but the Steinfeld category fraud throws a bit of a monkey wrench into things.

I haven't even seen The Fighter yet so I can't really weigh in with my own opinion in terms of merit.
I take it back. There seem to be more instances of one of the two nominees for the same film winning than splitting the vote.
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Friggin' LiMPer.
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Also, The Fighter's very, very good. David O. Russell's able to inject a surprising level of naturalism into an admittedly cartoonish scenario. That sort of mastery of tone is something that I always respond to.

Speaking of his work, Flirting with Disaster is the shit. I might have mentioned it on here somewhere, but I was surprised by how much I loved that film. As great as Three Kings and I Heart Huckabees are, any fan of those two movies should check that one out as well.
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I still need to see Flirting With Disaster. I can't believe I've gone this long.
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I'm nowhere near the film aficionado that most of you are, but I'm a bit surprised for the lack of love that Winter's Bone seems to be getting. I watched it and The Social Network back-to-back on a recent flight, and to me Winter was the far more gripping and much better acted film.

Is the Academy's love for Social Network based on the timeliness of the film? I enjoyed it, and Eisenberg was tremendous in his role, but personally I do not see it as approaching the same league as Winter or The King's Speech.
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I'm nowhere near the film aficionado that most of you are, but I'm a bit surprised for the lack of love that Winter's Bone seems to be getting. I watched it and The Social Network back-to-back on a recent flight, and to me Winter was the far more gripping and much better acted film.

Is the Academy's love for Social Network based on the timeliness of the film? I enjoyed it, and Eisenberg was tremendous in his role, but personally I do not see it as approaching the same league as Winter or The King's Speech.
I just wasn't very moved by Winter's Bone. Maybe it was too bleak? I thought the girl's performance was fine, but not outstanding.
OMG, did they nail the wardrobe though--grubby, poor-people wear.

Go see The Fighter; that will throw a wrench in what you think will win. It is easily in my top 3 of most enjoyable 2010 movies to watch (which doesn't always equate to Oscar material, but The Fighter does).
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Is the Academy's love for Social Network based on the timeliness of the film? I enjoyed it, and Eisenberg was tremendous in his role, but personally I do not see it as approaching the same league as Winter or The King's Speech.
The King's Speech is minor league, and doesn't deserve to be mentioned alongside Winter's Bone, which was actually creatively done, instead of just having a handful of off-center compositions posting as art. And the latter also felt like a unique story, instead of a by-the-numbers underdog schematic.

And neither is good as The Social Network, which was about as perfectly crafted as anything I've seen in a while. It may be a cold machine, but it is a streamlined one that is running on all cylinders at all times and should be respected for that technical feat. And I do think the ensemble, which is made up of much less-experienced actors (as compared to the well-trained British cast of TKS), is outstanding all the way through. And then there's the script, which has been rightfully lauded this entire awards season for a very engrossing story that has a lot of dazzling dialogue.
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And neither is good as The Social Network, which was about as perfectly crafted as anything I've seen in a while. It may be a cold machine, but it is a streamlined one that is running on all cylinders at all times and should be respected for that technical feat. And I do think the ensemble, which is made up of much less-experienced actors (as compared to the well-trained British cast of TKS), is outstanding all the way through. And then there's the script, which has been rightfully lauded this entire awards season for a very engrossing story that has a lot of dazzling dialogue.
I don't know, I found the dialogue slightly disingenuous. I've been around a lot of Ivy League people (not that I'm at all proud of that), and none of them have spoken in the seamless, impeccably sardonic manner that so many of the characters in the film do. Then there's the ending, which I felt decided to impose its ideas with a sledgehammer even though they had already been insinuated quite strongly. But that's just a personal preference. I was entertained nonetheless.
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No normal human beings talk the way Sorkin writes, and when you hire David Fincher and Trent Reznor on top of that to put together a film like this, you don't exactly demand naturalism.

I am with most of the detractors regarding the ending of the film, however. Not for any "that's not true to the real life story" reason though, but merely because it is kind of heavy-handed and easy. They could have arrived at a much more elegant ending to the same effect.
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