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Old 01-31-2011, 11:28 AM   #91
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If we needed any more proof that the critics know more about film or have better taste than the people that actually work in the industry, this is it.
Critics certainly have a more varied taste. The people in the industry work the entire year and only get a chance to see the films that "everyone's buzzing about" or where their friends are featured. It's absurd to the point of disbelief. It doesn't affect how I watch or perceive movies, but it sure does affect a ton of other people.
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Old 01-31-2011, 01:49 PM   #92
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"Critics" is a bit inclusive too for any reliable indication of taste or intellectual value in cinema discussion. Most in that group are just as uninformed or misguided as Academy members, and have the added flaw of a misconception that people should actually give a shit what they have to say. But still, as LMP points out, at the very least they watch a far greater number of films, so their collective awards or whatever tend to at least be a bit more reflective of the state of the art.
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Old 01-31-2011, 02:06 PM   #93
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I don't understand all the upset at this outcome.

TKS is not a terrible film. In fact it is a good film. And SAG looks at performances over other aspects of film making.

Critics??? That is a very broad group, with some suspect members included.

With SAG, I believe the winner is the plurality winner in the voting.



Best Ensemble
'Black Swan'
'The Fighter'
'The Kids Are All Right'
'The King's Speech'
'The Social Network'


Looking at the noms, my guess is that it won with around 30%

I think a majority of Swan and Kids are Alright voters would have chosen TSN over TKS.

Perhaps they should switch to a weighted vote system where they take the least votes film and tally the second choice until one film gets over 50%?
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:40 PM   #94
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If it's meaningless, I wonder why you're taking the time to post in a thread for the Academy Awards.
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The time? Killing time is one of the main reasons most people post on forums, and this is one of the more active threads of late. As I've said before the Oscars are a fun enough distraction to follow each year, but I do think it's asinine to ascribe any realimportance to them, or to any art or entertainment "awards" in general. Especially to the point of emotional investment.
People subconsiously place value in entertainment awards for the same reason they post in forums.

It's the need to have a group of people acknowledge your opinions, or to get pissed when they refute those ideas, because you're right in the end, of course.

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you didn't write anything about my well-reasoned post?
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Old 01-31-2011, 04:03 PM   #96
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It's the need to have a group of people acknowledge your opinions, or to get pissed when they refute those ideas, because you're right in the end, of course.
Definitely not why most of us post here. Well, by "us" at least I mean the reasonably sane people to which I tend to limit my interactions here. As for awards... yeah that probably fits.
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Bonham Carter, Guy Pearce and Michael Gambon were also excellent.
Bonham Carter and Gambon were good, but IMO not anywhere as good as the leads. Guy Pearce to me was just poor casting, he's supposed to be an older brother and yet he is seven years younger than Firth and comes off as a younger brother in the film. Plus I just didn't buy him in the role of a British king, and no not because he grew up in Australia (I had no such problem with Cate Blanchett).
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Timothy Spall as Winston Churchill was cringe worthy and historically wrong.
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Pearce easily looked 10 years older though. Let's hope it was just make-up for his sake.
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Timothy Spall as Winston Churchill was cringe worthy and historically wrong.
That was a strange performance. It was more like Alfred Hitchcock, though I still love the movie overall.
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Sprall has the look

but he didn't get the part

Anthony Hopkins to take on Alfred Hitchcock - January 29, 2011
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Oscar predictions: Did Melissa Leo torpedo her campaign? | Inside Movies | EW.com

"Since my last round of predictions, two major Oscar-related events have taken place. The Writers Guild Awards were handed out to The Social Network and Inception, and Melissa Leo released her own (now controversial) campaign ads. Though Leo has been applauded by some for her chutzpah, I’ve talked to a few Academy members who now say they’re less likely to vote for her after the faux-fur-filled photos. I actually had True Grit‘s Hailee Steinfeld at the top of my supporting-actress rankings before the ads came out. At this point it could go either way."



OSCAR: Melissa Leo Goes Rogue With Her Own Personal Campaign Ads – Deadline.com

"I spoke to Leo today moments after she arrived in New Orleans to resume her role in HBO’s Treme. She explained the ads followed months of her frustration at not being able to land magazine covers, even with all the awards and attention for The Fighter. Leo is 50 years old and she attributes the media's lack of interest to ageism and because of that and other factors she’s not considered "box office". “I took matters into my own hands. I knew what I was doing and told my representation how earnest I was about this idea. I had never heard of any actor taking out an ad as themselves and I wanted to give it a shot," Melissa told me. So she and three friends arranged a special "fun" photo shoot instead of using the usual studio-prepared photo from the film for "For Your Consideration" ads.

“I am quite certain I have not overstepped any boundaries of the Academy," Leo told me. "I did hear a lot of very positive comments, particularly from women of a certain age who happen to act for a living and happen to understand full well the great dilemma and mystery of getting a cover of a magazine. I also heard there were negative comments, but no one said them to my face, sadly. I like to hear what people think. I could explain myself."
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Wow, did anyone else watch the BAFTAs yesterday? The Kings Speech had 14 nominations I believe and although not all awards were aired, the film took 6 of the main awards in a big sweep. Amazing. Natalie Portman won Best Actress and awards also went to Inception and Social Network. Wondering how much of a trend this may indicate with Oscar awards?
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All the BAFTA voters get to vote for the Oscars, right?
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Wow, did anyone else watch the BAFTAs yesterday? The Kings Speech had 14 nominations I believe and although not all awards were aired, the film took 6 of the main awards in a big sweep. Amazing. Natalie Portman won Best Actress and awards also went to Inception and Social Network. Wondering how much of a trend this may indicate with Oscar awards?
I watched a good bit of it late last night. From what I have heard in years past, the winners at the BAFTAs tend to be the same for the Oscars.
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