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Old 07-23-2005, 07:13 AM   #31
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This is disgusting. I hope Zach can get out on his own soon.
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Old 07-23-2005, 07:27 AM   #32
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alot of kids kill themselves. Not just gay kids. Suicide is very rapent among our youth. I dont believe every kid who was gay that committed suicide did it because he/she was gay.
I think you're right to an extent - many gay teenagers who commit suicide may have had a number of reasons for doing so, suffering from mental illness, bereavement or family problems being just a few possibilities.

However, I also think that gay teenagers have an additional problem which straight teenagers don't experience - they may experience homophobic bullying at school, their parents may reject them because of their sexuality, they may be too afraid to be honest about their sexuality and so spend their whole life trying to hide it. All of those factors could contribute to suicide, so while I agree with you that not every gay person who commits suicide has done so because of their sexuality and the consequences of it, it would be wrong to assume this isn't a factor in many cases.
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Old 07-23-2005, 08:14 AM   #33
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i just think it will be really nice for the girl that hooks this "straight" guy after he is brainwashed into straighthood.

Hello 10 years down the track when Mrs Zach walks in to find zach in bed with ben.

This won't just affect his life.
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this reminds me of the time my best friend told me he used to be gay. a year later he killed himself.

i hope that program gets shut down.
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wow.

you don't know anything about this, do you?

p.s. -- "alot" is not a word

Wow. correcting my grammar. You really showed me. Its a web forum.

What i said was a true statement. You think the only kids who get bullied are the gays ones. Kids who are fat or dont have the "in" look get beat up and harassed too.

Also, gays are more accepted now than ever. I'm not saying everyone accepts them cause your article shows this. However, people have become very tolerant of this choice of lifestyle.


I love the fact that you are judging me and that could have very well been the first one of my posts you have ever read.
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This reminds me of my friend who had the bad luck to be raised Mormon, and is gay. He tried to kill himself for years by picking up strangers off the streets and taking them home, doing any drug he could to excess. When I talked to him about it, he said, "My family hates me and I'm going to Hell." I always connected the two. Thank God he finally met a great guy and settled down. Just another reason to think religions suck.
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i just think it will be really nice for the girl that hooks this "straight" guy after he is brainwashed into straighthood.

Hello 10 years down the track when Mrs Zach walks in to find zach in bed with ben.

This won't just affect his life.
lol, yeah. you probably don't want to get me started on that one.

but you're right. you're absolutely right.

if my ex-husband's family had just let him be who he was when he was in high school, my life would be very, very different right now.
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Old 07-23-2005, 08:58 AM   #38
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You might want to look further into this before you roll your eyes.

I dont think i need to look further into it. im sure many kids who were gay committed suicide because they were gay. But all of them. Look how many straight kids kill themselves. They are other problems in the world that frustrate our youth.

Like people who need to trumph themselves up by correcting other people on stupid shit that doesnt matter......

like grammar
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I dont think i need to look further into it.
Trust me, you do.

Your posts indicate that you're just talking here, that you really don't have any facts about the subject.
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Trust me, you do.

Your posts indicate that you're just talking here, that you really don't have any facts about the subject.

How can you have facts on that. Seriously. Everykid who has killed himself didnt do it for the same reason.

You know you have tore my down before and I think you are standing on previous posts.

what facts do I need. It is very high on cause of death list in americas youth(like 3rd). Most kids kill themselves because of pressure. Pressure to succeed, pressure to fit in. Yes, if someone is gay they could feel they dont fit in or belong. You act like im a bad guy here. I think the article was worth posting and its terrible some parents dont accept there childern for who they are. But these people are not a majority.

Tell me the acceptance of gays has not increased. There was a time when people would not even talk about gayness. Now we have INFINITELY many gay shows and gays on TV. Forrmer sports players coming out of the closet.

I wasnt inferring that the public completeky accepts gays yet. But there is progress. I just believe society gets a bad wrap and was trying to state that some change had occured.
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How can you have facts on that.....



what facts do I need.
I stand by my posts in this thread.
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no one else ihothrowing statistics around. I dont feel i should either. I was just throwing my opinion in here. Sorry you dont agree with it.

Way to leave out the facts in the middle of the post.
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All theBrush said is that when gay teenagers commit suicide it isn't always because they're gay

I don't see what's so objectionable about saying that.
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All theBrush said is that when gay teenagers commit suicide it isn't always because they're gay

I don't see what's so objectionable about saying that.
Exactly, I really can't see why people are suddenly jumping all over him/her.
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ya, same here. I don't get it either.
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