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Old 08-21-2002, 07:13 PM   #16
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I can see some jail time, but death
surely, you don't mean this?
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Old 08-21-2002, 10:01 PM   #17
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And we're sick of men putting the "rights" of a fetus over and above the rights of a woman.
But you're prepared to argue that a fetus has no rights, so I can respect your position. This does not hold for the vast majority of pro-choice advocates I have read or argued with.

And there are women who put the "rights" of a fetus over and above the rights of women.

Anyway, perhaps this tangent should end now?
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Anyway, perhaps this tangent should end now?
Yes.

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surely, you don't mean this?
Perhaps I'm misinterpreting both of you, but I thought Jala meant if they want to be unrealistic about this matter, a jail sentence would be the better of 2 choices. You may have read that for yourself in the reply and are questioning why jail is a suitable punishmernt, sorry if that the case!
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You may have read that for yourself in the reply and are questioning why jail is a suitable punishmernt, sorry if that the case!
yes - that's what i was questioning
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And we're sick of men putting the "rights" of a fetus over and above the rights of a woman.

I agree, especially since its not the woman's right either.

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And we're sick of men putting the "rights" of a fetus over and above the rights of a woman.

I agree, especially since its not the woman's right either.

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I was going to say that I didn't quite follow what you were trying to say, but the more I think about it, the more I understand what you were trying to say.

Fortunately men like you, who think they can control what I do to my body, are in the minority in these modern times, so I don't have to worry to much about you forcing me to either have children or NOT have children. I get to choose the medical care I need. I'm glad that you wern't around to make my decisions for me when I needed to have my uterus removed; you might have raised a legal stink about any potential children whose gestation may have killed me. Oh yeah, that's not the concern here; the potential child is more important that any life I may be living.

Notice that I was willing to drop this, but YOU brought it up again.
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I formerly apologise for the encouraging the whole 'tangent' thing, as I did not read that, just Martha's response. However, as I DID raise it, let me just say Martha that my views were not an attack on you. Indeed, they weren't even my views, it was an observation.

Evidently, I came off as short. However, I am not anti-abortionist in the sense you might think of. Indeed, in any sense. I am NOT saying that Men have the right to decide over women, just as women don't have the right over a human life they may be carrying - the whole thing is 'morally' (I hate that word) dubious. I find it complex and shady, and not one to condemn or praise.

I did not mean it as a personal slant on you and your own personal and individual case. I find this topic intriguing, as you can see, and if you should want to continue discussing it I would be grateful if we conducted this in private, since it IS a tangent and I don't feel like opening a new thread.


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Ok, Ant., subject dropped again.

I don't think it would be productive to discuss it privately, because I see no dubious or shady aspects to the subject. I'm very committed to the rights of women to control their own reproduction, without interference from others.

If you'd really like to, maybe, but be prepared for absolute, dogmatic statements from me. This issue is not debatable for me, and it's a litmus test for candidates when I vote.

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