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Old 04-21-2005, 02:19 PM   #16
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of course we all know exactly what the virgin mary looked like..........
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Well, considering all the times she pops up, we should know.
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This is nutty, but what the hell? Alot of things are.
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Old 04-21-2005, 02:39 PM   #19
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Old 04-21-2005, 03:18 PM   #20
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Comparing a pilgrimage to Mecca to this foolishness is like comparing the Olympics to me doing cartwheels in my backyard for my hand-drawn medal.
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Old 04-21-2005, 03:24 PM   #21
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Exactly never put down anyones faith, it's a great comfort for many people whatever they're religion, you'd never call those Muslims praying to Mecca crazy would you, nor would I
And why not? religion is ideas and ideology and should be questioned, ridiculed and joked about as much as any other set of ideas. Just because people dress up in fancy robes doesn't make their ideas beyond reproach.
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There is a place near Birmingham where someone who was in town from what is now Bosnia claimed to have had apparitions of Mary. A cult started, but the apparition claims were rejected by the local bishop because the belief is that an apparition has to be accompanied by a miracle to be valid. There was no miracle. The guy who started a whole cult around it is being sued for fraud and a bunch of other things by people who got duped. It's a mess.
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And why not? religion is ideas and ideology and should be questioned, ridiculed and joked about as much as any other set of ideas. Just because people dress up in fancy robes doesn't make their ideas beyond reproach.
this may be the only thing i will ever agree with you on.
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the virgin mary... on a piece of grilled cheese...
This is what I imagined when I looked at this picture.

Bob: [takes a bite of his cheesy toast] <crunch> MMmmm! This is good.

Mary: <gasp!> Bob, stop! There's a Virgin Mary on your sandwich.

Bob: Holy shit! [drops sandwich]
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Comparing a pilgrimage to Mecca to this foolishness is like comparing the Olympics to me doing cartwheels in my backyard for my hand-drawn medal.

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This is what I imagined when I looked at this picture.

Bob: [takes a bite of his cheesy toast] <crunch> MMmmm! This is good.

Mary: <gasp!> Bob, stop! There's a Virgin Mary on your sandwich.

Bob: Holy shit! [drops sandwich]

I pictured it more like this:


Oh I really shouldn't take a bite of this, it has a picture of the holy virgin on it! But I am sooo hungry, maybe just one little bite. Marry will understand, won't she?
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And why not? religion is ideas and ideology and should be questioned, ridiculed and joked about as much as any other set of ideas. Just because people dress up in fancy robes doesn't make their ideas beyond reproach.
There is a differance between ridicule and asking questions, we should question everything but if you feel like everything needs to be ridiculed prepare yourselve for ridicule from others, yes maybe that would make this world even happier
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And why not? religion is ideas and ideology and should be questioned, ridiculed and joked about as much as any other set of ideas. Just because people dress up in fancy robes doesn't make their ideas beyond reproach.

I'm not sure I disagree with Wanderer. While I wouldn't use the word ridicule, I don't think anything is beyond irreverence and challenge. No idea or ideology should be held sacred from criticism or humor. To paraphrase Wanderer, no idea is beyond reproach. Not even mine, especially not mine, no matter how uncomfortable it might make me.
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There is a differance between ridicule and asking questions, we should question everything but if you feel like everything needs to be ridiculed prepare yourselve for ridicule from others, yes maybe that would make this world even happier
Yes I do, I think that we should see an equivalent of the Life of Brian regarding Islam. I think that it is bloody hilarious that people are willing to worship a stain on a wall or have crazy whip yourself until you bleed dances. I think that it is really funny that a fanatical Muslim terrorist can blow themselves to smitherenes and then plausibly go to eternal paradise to enjoy 72 white raisins. They take themselves so seriously the only bloody way to knock them down a few notches and blow away all that pomp and ceremony is to joke about it.

If somebody wants to mock or make fun of secular humanism then the best of luck to them, I have no problem to see my abence of belief questioned or mocked because I do not think that I should have to respect somebodys ideas, I play the ball and not the man, I will not mock a person for who they are but their beliefs should not be off limits, I am strongly opposed to any religious vilification laws because they stifle freedom of speech and start granting legal protection for ideas making them off limits, and that leads to a lot of badness because problems are never adressed and hatreds are left to fester.
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the virgin mary... on a piece of grilled cheese...

allegedly...


allegedly people are stupid.
oh gosh. that's hilarious. cause i'm eating a grilled cheese sandwich right now.

im sort of losing my appetite now though.. what stupid people.
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