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Old 02-23-2005, 06:26 PM   #16
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That's funny. Our animal is not the jackass, but the elephant.
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Old 02-24-2005, 05:35 AM   #17
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Re: Re: Re: Would you support....

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SDI technology is NOT worthless! I have friends that are alive today because this technology was used to intercept Iraqi ballistic Missiles fired into Kuwait in March 2003 at the start of the war! The Army will soon have the ability to intercept Artillery Shells and Mortar rounds fired on the battlefield which up until a few years ago was thought to be impossible.
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Old 02-24-2005, 05:24 PM   #18
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North Korea and Iran were and still remain a much larger threat to the world than Iraq could ever have been, and I find it alarming that not much is being done about this threat.

I never opposed Iraq on grounds of pacifism. Indeed, I actually supported, and still support, the war in Afghanistan. I still believe it was key to and set out a framework, if you will, on the War on Terror. I really don't wish to go on about the War in Iraq, for it is redundant, but I do not live in comfort that the world was made safer because of the toppling of Hussein's regime. I live in fear that lives were lost and money spent on clearly the wrong threat.

I voted yes. Not because I'm a war-monger but because they 'are' a threat, North Korea even more so than Iran. I want something to be done; something quick and efficient, uncompromising and direct. I want to see negotiations opened and deadlines set, sanctions inflicted and embargos carried out, and even decisive military action if necessary.

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Old 02-26-2005, 02:50 AM   #19
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Unfortunately, I can't vote "yes or no", because I would have supported military action in one case, and would not have in the other.

In the case of Iran, I would have supported appropriate military action (and still do, given Iran's insane move towards nuclear weapons, as well as continued support of terrorists). However, Iran has a much better chance at internal reform/revolution than Iraq ever did, and they didn't pose the threat that we feared Saddam did.

It would be nuts to start a war with North Korea, given the size of their military. A war with North Korea would have to be sudden, fast, and very bloody: basically, the entire country would have to be destroyed, which is not a thing to be taken likely. Unlike Iraq, where less than 20,000 civilians have died because of US military action according to anti-war site Iraq Body Count, action against North Korea would probably result in the deaths of hundreds of thousands, if not millions. We're not at that point.
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Old 02-26-2005, 02:53 AM   #20
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hey who cares about millions of lives lost when you could be spreading freedom?
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Old 02-26-2005, 03:09 AM   #21
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hey who cares about millions of lives lost when you could be spreading freedom?
If you can make an argument as to how carbet-bombing North Korea would serve to better the cause of freedom in the world, I'm willing to listen.
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Old 02-26-2005, 03:15 AM   #22
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i guess the irony wasnt as plain to see as i thought it was
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Old 02-26-2005, 03:18 AM   #23
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i guess the irony wasnt as plain to see as i thought it was
I just think that people throw out that sarcastic freedom comment (and ones like it) way too often.
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Old 02-26-2005, 03:22 AM   #24
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my favorite in that area is from the french foreign affairs minister:

'you cant spread freedom the way you spread perfumes or fragrances'

that was a good one
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my favorite in that area is from the french foreign affairs minister:

'you cant spread freedom the way you spread perfumes or fragrances'

that was a good one
yeah.
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Old 02-26-2005, 04:45 AM   #26
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although his delivery was incredibly french, he does have a point
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Old 02-28-2005, 07:57 AM   #27
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That's funny. Our animal is not the jackass, but the elephant.
you know what else is funny, wiseass? i didn't vote for the jackasses. john kerry is a phony, he's complete suck up to conservatives. bush is just plain stupidity. when will we get away from bigoted, animal abusing candidates?
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Old 02-28-2005, 04:46 PM   #28
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Those of you whoo don't like the term "freedom" being thrown around can easily substitute "Human rights" instead. The two go hand in hand.

And maybe 'you cant spread freedom the way you spread perfumes or fragrances' but you might be able to knock down obstacles to freedom like dominos.

Look for the "Berlin Wall" of the Middle East to fall this decade.
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Old 03-01-2005, 02:19 PM   #29
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How about not a "war" per say but HELPING in Sudan - like kicking the butts of those Arabs that are killing all the Blacks???
These guys ARE terrorists and we should be there "defeating the terrorists" - just like we should of in Rwanda. By the way...by "we" I mean the U.S., Canada, China, Russia, France, Germany etc. etc. - the so called UN.
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Old 03-01-2005, 02:24 PM   #30
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military interventions are not made on the basis of right or wrong anymore, theyre made on the basis of profit and national interests.

id say NATO should go. UN peace corps are pretty useless. but then, US doesnt lead the world towards worthy causes anymore. and european community.. well, they obviously cant be bothered. if they couldnt be bothered in the 90s when there was a genocide going on in the middle of the continent there's simply no way theyd go to sudan to help people.
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