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Old 01-05-2006, 08:24 PM   #16
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I do agree that as a society (or societies) we wouldn't recognise Jesus, but I wasn't really thinking of that. I really was thinking of each individual person meeting him. But not looking like your stereotypical Jesus and not saying hey this is who I am.

Essentially, I guess, I was wondering if you think there would be an aura (as vervex noted, or a Jesus-like quality as MrsS called it) about him that would clue you in. Would there be such an overwhelming goodness or spiritousity (if that's a word) about him that you would know?

Or would would whether you knew it was him or not be up to him to determine, as nbcrusader noted?
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Yes, i agree, unfortunately JC would probably be shot or put in a mental institute!
(hell, he's probably in one already!)
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Jeez i feel a little bad about laughing about this, i did not really see how into this you are!
But i truly believe for the record that there is a touch of him in all of us, and you can feel it. Its just that some people recognise the feeling more than others.
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Jeez i feel a little bad about laughing about this, i did not really see how into this you are!
But i truly believe for the record that there is a touch of him in all of us, and you can feel it. Its just that some people recognise the feeling more than others.
No worries. I think humour, about pretty much everything, is important. Humourless people always make me nervous.
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I believe we would do a modern day cruicifiction of him.

I do not have faith that we would be any more ready to accept the Messiah today than they were 1,000's of years ago.

The crucifixion had to do more with politics

Than with religion

The church in his day had a successful working relationship with governing powers to support and maintain each other's authority and continued success.
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I think most wouldn't. Society would find some way to silence him.

Pat Robertson would publicly condemn him.

This is very true

Jesus did not encourage any one to donate to the building fund, or any other donations to support and keep the clergy of the day in their comfortable and respected lifestyle.

The high priest in his day were no worse than any preacher or pastor today. They would feel threatened by a street person that required no more participation than just to say I accept and I believe.
How radical was that?
The decent religious people of his day that had followed all the religious traditions that had been handed down for centuries would most likely find him peculiar and stay with the status quo.

Keep going to church and studying the scriptures.
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It's highly unlikely that one person would even make a splash. Christianity succeeded, due to the rather syncretic nature of "pagan" religions. That is, they would willingly accept the addition of other cultures' deities into their existing belief structure. As such, I often think that evangelization often accepted implicit compromises, such as how Jesus and Mithras have lots in common, not to mention that there are quite a few saints (lesser known today) that correspond to pagan deities.

The environment today is much different. Syncretism is not even in our language, and the idea of adding "foreign" beliefs into our existing theology is repugnant to most people. If someone claimed to be Jesus, He'd likely be rejected, because there's no room for additions to 2000 year-old beliefs.

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Jesus came and went with very little impact in his day. Most likely a few dozen, maybe at most a couple of hundred followers. There is no way to measure.

The success of the Jesus movement came after his death with some great marketing, a superior product. Not much was required, just say "I believe". No animals to purchase for sacrifice. No treks to make.
And a promise of eternal life.

The Romans and other gentiles were a great target group for a superior belief system with less required.
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Hard to say for me... I don't really believe in Jesus' messia existence. For me, he either didn't exist, or was a great spiritual man which sayings were interpretated with the centuries, modified, like stories.

Before asking ourselves if we'd recognize Jesus, we should set who Jesus really is for each of us. For me, it would be, like I said, someone very spiritual. I haven't met yet people with that kind of aura, unfortunatly, the force of the ones who know we all are united and can almost control this energy.
I think it would be impossible to recognize a man like that passing in the street without him at least smiling to you or something. It's really hard to say...
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I believe that people who truly believe the word of God would know it was Jesus no matter what he looked liked (hence that show Joan of Arcadia).

The beliefs of 2000 years ago, are not anything that should be that different of today. Especially, the 10 commandments. Everyone on the earth, no matter what religion they are; should some how or even sometimes emulate Jesus's actions. How could that hurt the world People should think sometimes like What would Jesus do?
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Who even knows more than three or four commandments :S

What use is there living by the ones that just don't make common sense, same with religious minded diets.
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The success of the Jesus movement came after his death with some great marketing, a superior product. Not much was required, just say "I believe". No animals to purchase for sacrifice. No treks to make.
And a promise of eternal life.
Yeah, well, these days, it feels like a game of "bait-and-switch": the "bait" being the supposed simplicity, and the "switch" being centuries of burdensome and rather illogical ritualism, tradition, and seemingly timeless prejudice and illogic.

Maybe it's time to do some quality control and see if the factory is actually producing what the marketing promises.

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Who even knows more than three or four commandments :S
Particularly when the Ten Commandments and the rest of Mosaic Law were superceded by "Love one another." But that's just a little too gay for "manly" Christianity.

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I think Jesus would look around this world, and be like "I came back for this?, screw dat, I'm outta here"
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I think most wouldn't. Society would find some way to silence him.

Pat Robertson would publicly condemn him.
yes

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This song was written in New York City
Of rich men, preachers and slaves
Yes, if Jesus was to preach like he preached in Galillee,
They would lay Jesus Christ in his grave.

taken from the song "Jesus Christ"
by Woody Guthrie

as to if i would recognize him, i think it would have a lot to do with if i was looking for him. i think we miss lots of things because we're to preoccupied with misc stuff.
i think you could walk next to him down the street for blocks but not know it was him cause you weren't paying attention

that's my thought
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Anyone heard the song, The Ballad of Peter Pumpkinhead by XTC? Kick ass song and a little parable of Jesus.
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