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Yes, it inolves race so it is. 4 16.00%
No, you can prosecute people who's ancestors have been oppressed 4 16.00%
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Old 01-19-2008, 01:33 PM   #16
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It is a true fact that your polls give no viable answers on a regular basis.

This is not the case here however: Diamond, are you going to see U23D?
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Old 01-19-2008, 01:40 PM   #17
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i'm not neccesarily sure it was a hate crime, per say... and that's why a lot of the national media probably didn't pick up on it. hate crimes bring more ratings, just like apparently kidnapped white chicks bring higher ratings than kidnapped minorities.
Dude, it's "per se". Though, I agree with the last part of your statement.
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Old 01-20-2008, 12:16 AM   #18
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Basically the logic behind hate crime laws is that victimizing someone out of animosity towards their 'class' (race, religion, [in some states] sexual orientation, etc.) makes the crime more grave because such crimes are typically more likely to provoke retaliatory crimes (e.g., '92 LA riots), stir community tensions and civic unrest (e.g., fallout from the black church burnings across the South in '96, or the 'Howard Beach Incident' in NYC in '86), and inflict more emotional distress on the victim than they would have otherwise (e.g., it's more disturbing when someone sprays swastikas on the wall of your kids' Jewish school than when someone sprays their opinion that the principal is an asshole). As such, most hate crime laws are effectively penalty enhancement provisions for what's already criminal conduct. Hate crime charges aren't a comment on how 'hateful' the perpetrator was in a personalized sense; obviously anyone who rapes then strangles someone to death was 'hateful' by that definition.
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I think we should prosecute crimes equally based on the circumstances and brutality of the crimes committed.
If you don't think this offense type should even exist, then why did you deliberately make the 'No' option so ridiculous? You do realize that African-Americans get charged with hate crimes too, right?
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What if one of the killers were to confess and say that they killed this couple because the were "crackers"?

Then that would make it a hate crime?

Yes. But, as it is, there's no proof of that at the moment.
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I think a lot of crimes committed are based on hate.

Can you elaborate this belief a little further?
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It is a true fact that your polls give viable pertinent spot on answers on a regular basis, and I appreciate your wisdom.

That said: Diamond, are you going to see U23D?
yes, very shortly.

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Rumor is you'll die 7 days after seeing it.

I'd look into it.
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diamond, i'm really curious as to why you think a lot of crimes are hate crimes.
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Dude, it's "per se". Though, I agree with the last part of your statement.
maybe i meant per a thin silk or woolen fabric similar to serge, much used in the 16th century. ever think of that, tough guy?
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Rumor is you'll die 7 days after seeing it.

I'd look into it.
I saw it.

Felt like I was on stage with the band, pretty innovative- good show.

I've come to realize that Bono is not quite David Hasselhoff, which is a good thing.


6.75 days left.

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