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Old 11-18-2002, 09:54 AM   #1
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World Peace

it's a cliche to talk about world peace, but does anyone actually think it will happen.

it's so discouraging for me...there is so much hate in the world
everywhere you look there is a disgusting reek of unforgiving hate

mankind has little hope as I see it

will there ever be a day when the arab people love america and want to visit there and see disney land?
I find it hard to believe...they hate the west so much, and many people here hate them just as much

between arabs and jews

it seems like every country in the world has a rival whom they hate

It's a sad world and if there ever comes a time when everybody loves everybody (which is the only thing that will make world peace possible) it will be a divine intervention from God.
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Old 11-18-2002, 10:05 AM   #2
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As long as there are humans, there will never be world peace.

Even in the animal kingdom, there is never peace for long...

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Old 11-18-2002, 04:29 PM   #3
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I just hope for a day when Disneyland isn't an ideal place to want to come.
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But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

That pretty much sums up what I think.

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I love that song, Moonlit_Angel.
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I dream of and pray for world peace; it would be a great thing.

Unfortunately reality sets in, and a lyric from Metallica often rings true:

So be it, threaten no more;
To secure peace is to prepare for war.


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Me, too. It's a great song. .

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Old 11-19-2002, 03:01 AM   #8
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With the ongoing spread of democracy and capitilism around the world in addition to other positive aspects of globalization, will have world peace in 100 to 300 years. Thats about how long it will take to bring the rest of the third world to around the level of the first world. Of course I think there will still be crime because were still human, but, I would not define that as war. Economic growth and diverse economic interdependence often has a way of ending and preventing conflict.
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With the ongoing spread of democracy and capitilism around the world in addition to other positive aspects of globalization, will have world peace in 100 to 300 years. Thats about how long it will take to bring the rest of the third world to around the level of the first world. Of course I think there will still be crime because were still human, but, I would not define that as war. Economic growth and diverse economic interdependence often has a way of ending and preventing conflict.
I doubt that. As you can see in the thread about "development policies", post - industrialization in third world countries doesnīt help to raise the Human Development Index. As long as the gap between central and peripheral countries stays that high, the 2 billion people who live in absolute poverty will want more. And first world countries will keep needing (sometimes stealing, sometimes underpaying) the resources of the third world; to be able to continue that practise, we will have to engage in regional conflicts with states who donīt play by our rules immediately.

Already 40 years ago the same arguments about capitalism, that was expected to benefit everyone, were being used with India, like I have stated. So how can you use the same wrong phrases again and again, STING2?

Ongoing speed of democracy and capitalism - what should the millions of people in India say, who died of hunger in the last forty years? Donīt you think some conflicts could arise from that situation?
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It's true, people here in the west think our model will work for everybody but it isn't the truth

if anything, attempts to capitalize and "democrasize" the third world only leads to exploitation of the poor there. Sweatshops being an example. Business people see these places as cheap places to set up and the politicians in the third world are so corrupt it makes ours look like Jesus.

THe more we try to impose our systems on them the more the arab countries and other countires will hate us.
It's people like sting, blinded by the government and by the holy "capitalism" model, who don't understand why they all hate us so much over there anyway, and that propogating our view of how the world "should" be only leads to more hate.

we want peace? we have to learn to live in harmony with other ways of living NOT trying to assimilate everyone into the United States
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This is the world of conflict and duality. Always has been, always will be. Doesn't hurt to try, though, because it can always be better, I suppose. I think the best we can do is strive for peace within ourselves and hope that that reflects outwardly in the world around us.
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Re: World Peace

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It's a sad world and if there ever comes a time when everybody loves everybody (which is the only thing that will make world peace possible) it will be a divine intervention from God.
*waiting patiently for the Second Coming of Christ*

We will never achieve peace on our own.
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Old 11-19-2002, 11:35 AM   #13
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*waiting patiently for the Second Coming of Christ*

We will never achieve peace on our own.
Me too - but I feel more than patient!
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define PEACE...one would hope, even though we are well and truly

part of the animal kingdom, that we can use our power of thought, our gift of compassion and hopefully our sense of right and wrong to find a way to live co-operatively. We don't all have to agree on everything, but we should be able to co-operate for mutual benefit.

I think it depends which day of the week you ask me this..is there hope? I'm struggling too basstrap. I am so hurt and offended some days lately...because of the "current" drought in Oz( we have had them before...news to some) all the "experts" are now saying...LATEST BREAKING NEWS!! we must take care of our water cycle...as though they have just discovered the notion. All I can say is better late than never, but why o why leave it soooooooooo late.greed not ignorance I suspect and that is criminal imho to steal the future like that .
So for me, environmental damage concerns me perhaps more than conflict, there is absolutely nothing I can do to prevent that. It's obvious who will win at war....nobody. But when it's over....our poor poor mistreated mother, the Earth.

But we're it mate, the future makers, we have been born into an interesting era. So much wealth and potential poised with so much suffering. I think the change shall go to the wire, some people have taken to the their "clautrosphere's"( see Ben Elton's This Other Eden) and couldn't care less about the rest of us.

True, the bastards have new and improved grinders....but please, don't let them.
Best Wishes for 2003....stay warm
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