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Old 03-31-2007, 01:54 PM   #136
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Life for men in Ireland must be a living hell.
It is the women are just too hot here
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Old 03-31-2007, 04:06 PM   #137
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(1) Health

It is fairly clear given that the live expectancy of women is so much higher than men there is some form of discrimination going on here.

(If the situation was the reverse, i.e. if men had a higher life expectancy, imagine the outcry and demands that something be done to rectify the situation)


(2) Jobs

Many employers are now actively discriminating against men, and have been for some time.

Look at the situation in banking, for example, where all the top banks are afraid to death of being sued - this leads to a situation where some (and I emphasize some) women are sometimes allowed to get away with inferior work performance, and/or exploit or take advantage of maternity leave requirements, for example. (In Europe, employers are obliged to keep positions for women on maternity leave more or less indefinitely)


(3) Education

It appears that many top universities are actively discriminating in favour of female applicants, particularly in engineering and science courses.


(4) Paternity

The abundance of evidence from the family law courts in many Western countries, especially the UK and Ireland, testifies to nothing short of an active, prolonged and vindictive assault on fathers' rights.
Wow, I haven't seen such uninformed speculation and ignorance in a long time...

Your health example is just terrible, do you even know what you are talking about?

Jobs, that's a pretty weak example, any support for this inferior work?

Education, it "appears" this way? Seriously, that's all you have? Do you have any idea the numbers of men vs women who are applying for these jobs and pursuing these jobs?

Paternity, this one is laughable. Do you have any idea how many men don't fight for custody? Don't want full custody?

Think about what you write...
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Old 03-31-2007, 04:41 PM   #138
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Do you have any idea how many men don't fight for custody? Don't want full custody?
And leave the children in poverty.
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Old 03-31-2007, 05:06 PM   #139
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Life for men in Ireland must be a living hell.

Don't forget that women make more money than men in the adult film industry too. It's outrageous. They should be put in their place.
And they do it without government interference
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Old 03-31-2007, 05:14 PM   #140
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Wow, I haven't seen such uninformed speculation and ignorance in a long time...

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Paternity, this one is laughable. Do you have any idea how many men don't fight for custody? Don't want full custody?

Think about what you write...
I think it is helpful, when one criticizes one poster's contribution for a perceived lack of evidential back-up, that one actually provides some evidence for one's point of view oneself, wouldn't you?

Discrimination against fathers by the family law courts is very well attested to, very well researched by objective observers and has been shown in numerous studies.

There are numerous examples of studies which show this on the internet and in the publishing media, I am surprised you are not aware of this.

My own personal view is that this discrimination is due to infiltration by extremist feminism of the family law court structure and of the profession of social work. That is just a personal opinion, mind - but it is pretty unarguable, frankly, that such discrimination takes place.

I attach a link to just one website which deals with the issue - there are hundreds of others.

http://www.coeffic.demon.co.uk/
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My own personal view is that this discrimination is due to infiltration by extremist feminism of the family law court structure and of the profession of social work.
I agree only that there needs to be some equality in child custody. But to blame the problem on some vast feminist conspiracy is really laughable.

There are just so many girl judges running roughshod over you poor boys. Is that it?

eta: And, once again, an Equal Rights Amendment would help remedy this problem, wouldn't it?
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I agree only that there needs to be some equality in child custody. But to blame the problem on some vast feminist conspiracy is really laughable.

There are just so many girl judges running roughshod over you poor boys. Is that it?

I see that you have not even troubled to research the facts of the issue, but are addressing ONE part of my post, where I made it abundantly clear that I was expressing a personal opinion.

To be honest, you are one of the posters on here that would benefit the most from learning about this issue.

Your second sentence speaks volumes.
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eta: And, once again, an Equal Rights Amendment would help remedy this problem, wouldn't it?
I never said I was against an Equal Rights Amendment.
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Your second sentence speaks volumes.
I'm glad you were able to understand the message.
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But your age discrimination, that women's life expectancy is higher than men's, was hopefully meant sarcastically
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Old 03-31-2007, 06:07 PM   #146
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To be honest, you are one of the posters on here that would benefit the most from learning about this issue.
Then educate me. Show me how in the goddam world men have been discriminated against more than women. Please enlighten all of us about how fucking tough you have it because you're a man. Please. Do it.
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But your age discrimination, that women's life expectancy is higher than men's, was hopefully meant sarcastically
I doubt it. Form other posts in FYM and other parts of Interference, I know that FG has some serious trouble with women. From what I can tell, he truly does believe we are out to get him.
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^There's gone my little hope

You know how hard we have it.
Think of the numerous people in the military that can't serve with either gays or women because their very presence makes the men too uncomfortable
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I'm glad you were able to understand the message.
It speaks volumes because it seems to indicate that you really don't want to consider the issue at all, you would prefer to see it purely in terms of trogoldyte males wanting to turn the clock back.

Fathers looking for access to their kids shouldn't really be getting ideas above their station - they're probably wife beaters or child abusers - and even if they're not, well, they are after all, MEN, and therefore automatically collectively GUILTY.

Not very liberal or progressive, is it?
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It speaks volumes because it seems to indicate that you really don't want to consider the issue at all, you would prefer to see it purely in terms of trogoldyte males wanting to turn the clock back.

Fathers looking for access to their kids shouldn't really be getting ideas above their station - they're probably wife beaters or child abusers - and even if they're not, well, they are after all, MEN, and therefore automatically collectively GUILTY.

Not very liberal or progressive, is it?
While I accept that men really find it harder to get custody for their children, because I've read several articles about this very topic, I think yiu just draw the wrong conclusion when it comes to the reasons for this "discrimination".
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