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Old 04-25-2006, 09:18 AM   #31
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Not defending him, but he did say something about her being "distracting" - she is quite a lovely young lady.

I would be distracted and go 0-4 if she was draped over the rail in front of me all game.
So put her in a burkha then.
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So put her in a burkha then.


And I'd say someone who did something like this is sexist according to my standards. Sorry to post this but this is what he did and said he did. Past history comes into play whether he likes it or not . Whatever his issues were/are with women he had no business pulling juvenile, offensive crap like that.

According to his book about the 85 season he used to
harass women reporters by walking on his hands in the lockerroom naked with "pole at half mast".

Grow up Keith
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just to turn the tables here, would you feel comfortable if a man was walking around a woman's locker room while you were getting changed?
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So then every woman that is at a game or watching on tv and says athlete x looks really hot in those tight pants is sexist too? right?
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So then every woman that is at a game or watching on tv and says athlete x looks really hot in those tight pants is sexist too? right?
He didn't say she looked hot. He said she didn't belong there.

Do you see the difference?

My remark about the burkha was in response to the argument that women are too distracting to have around.
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i'd still like a response on my last question... it seems that females are quick to slam men who don't like women to be in the locker room, usually with the argument that they are just doing their job and have every right to do the job the same way men do it... yet i would have to think that if a male janitor was simply doing his job in a female locker room while women were getting changed, there would be a few complaints made...
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just to turn the tables here, would you feel comfortable if a man was walking around a woman's locker room while you were getting changed?
In a news reporting context, or a task that could be done at any time?
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So then every woman that is at a game or watching on tv and says athlete x looks really hot in those tight pants is sexist too? right?
How does that have anything to do with the situation of Keith Hernandez saying what he said about Ms Calabrese? It is not sexist to say someone looks "hot" in tight pants (but it can be sexist saying it to someone in a derogatory way), however it is sexist to say, on your job as an announcer, that a woman doesn't belong in the dugout and to get all riled up about it before you even know who she is and why she's there and then to try to pass it off as a joke . If you can't see the sexist implications of that well I don't know what else to say.

Being uncomfortable while women walk around in a locker room is one thing, and can be remedied by covering up. Harassing them while doing naked handstands with your pole at half mast (as he so elequently put it) is completely inappropriate. The women are there to do their jobs, and whether he liked it or not he had no business harassing them while they were trying to do their jobs. But he loves the gals, he really does..

To me there is nothing "hotter" or sexier than a man who is a gentleman, and who is secure enough that he doesn't resort to such childish antics and harassment.

If I was an athlete I could and would cover up in a locker room if I was being interviewed, and as long as the men were respectful about the whole thing I would have no issue with it.
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frankly i've seen guys do shit a lot worse than naked hand stands in the locker room, with no females present whatsoever.

men, for the most part, are immature little twits who enjoy poop and dick jokes and think having their balls hanging out is funny.
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Being uncomfortable while women walk around in a locker room is one thing, and can be remedied by covering up. Harassing them while doing naked handstands with your pole at half mast (as he so elequently put it) is completely inappropriate. The women are there to do their jobs, and whether he liked it or not he had no business harassing them while they were trying to do their jobs. But he loves the gals, he really does..
You could argue that he was there just doing his job as well, giving him the right to walk around naked and do handstands.
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You could argue that he was there just doing his job as well, giving him the right to walk around naked and do handstands.
Really? I thought his job was playing baseball (unless he's a naked acrobat on the side in the locker room). That's a stretch.
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i'm not saying it's right or wrong, but if you think naked handstands is odd locker room behavior, you've never been in a locker room before...
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Really? I thought his job was playing baseball (unless he's a naked acrobat on the side in the locker room). That's a stretch.
His job is to play baseball - which includes being in the locker room. It was the Mets of the 80s though and naked handstands were probably the least harmful thing that group of guys did.
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just to turn the tables here, would you feel comfortable if a man was walking around a woman's locker room while you were getting changed?
Good question. My gymnastics team was never blessed with the luxury of a locker room. I changed from school clothes into a leotard in the back of a minivan during the 5 minute drive from school to the gym (which also did not have a locker room). That included changing into a sports bra and different underwear. If people wanted to stare at me changing in the car, that was their business.
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