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Old 08-21-2006, 11:37 AM   #1
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Women Can't Teach Men...

Sunday school teacher dumped for being female

Monday, August 21, 2006; Posted: 10:43 a.m. EDT (14:43 GMT)


WATERTOWN, New York (AP) -- The minister of a church that dismissed a female Sunday School teacher after adopting what it called a literal interpretation of the Bible says a woman can perform any job -- outside of the church.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/21/men....ap/index.html







I've discussed this issue before with Bible literalist. I was always curious as to why some things were taken literally and others ignored.

So what's your take?
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The old testament of the Bible was notorious for its misogyny.
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The old testament of the Bible was notorious for its misogyny.
This actually from NT...
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I've discussed this issue before with Bible literalist. I was always curious as to why some things were taken literally and others ignored.

So what's your take?
Me too, and I never get solid answers.

I took a Group Communication class and one project was to pick a random issue that's controversial within our college's community and host a debate. It wasn't required, but it was obvious that the project would be easier if everyone in our group was in agreement on the issue. Someone suggested women's roles in the church, assuming we all agreed it was ludacris to ban women from participating, but one girl goes "well, I think the Bible is very clear on this issue that women can't have leadership roles in the church, so I'm not sure it's worth discussing." Everyone looked at everyone else like and when we realized she was serious, the topic was immediately dropped.
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It almost seems contradictory. You're claiming to be Christians, and yet the Christian stance on women is made very clear in the Bible (in the old testament predominantly but apparantly also in the new testament). How can you keep picking and choosing what rules to adhere to or not? After all God wrote the Bible.
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Churches are and should be exempt from discrimination laws.

So what if this church has this belief or policy.

If one is a member and wants to voice a concern
that is their business.

It is not my business.

A member is always free to leave.
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After all God wrote the Bible.
I believe any research on the subject
proves that God did not write the Bible.
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First, a church board has taken a passage of Scripture that speaks to the conduct of affairs within the Church and applied it to affairs conducted outside the Church. (The passage is from 1 Timothy 2, for those who care to read the context).

So, this is not a matter of “literal” interpretation, but clear misapplication of Scripture.

Incidents like this also are destructive in that they can drive people away from Scripture instead of drawing people to Scripture (even the passages with which we struggle). I’m afraid that the actions of Rev. Timothy LaBouf will act as a stumbling block that will result in further misapplication or rejection of Scripture.
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I believe any research on the subject
proves that God did not write the Bible.
I would hope so, for if not, God's not only a petty, misogynistic, jealous asshole, but a horrible writer as well.
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In regard to the topic: I think every religious organization that uses its doctrine (or interpretation thereof) to justify the oppression of women should be made illegal, as should any religious org. that teaches hatred of "other" (Hamas comes to mind). Freedom of religion ought not include the right the discriminate or marginalize their perceived "other."
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within the Church and applied it to affairs conducted outside the Church.
I read the article and I do not see where he applies it to outside of the church?
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I think every religious organization that uses its doctrine (or interpretation thereof) to justify the oppression of women should be made illegal, as should any religious org. that teaches hatred of "other" (Hamas comes to mind). Freedom of religion ought not include the right the discriminate or marginalize their perceived "other."
wtf?

Who decides then?
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First, a church board has taken a passage of Scripture that speaks to the conduct of affairs within the Church and applied it to affairs conducted outside the Church. (The passage is from 1 Timothy 2, for those who care to read the context).

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She taught sunday school for 54 years! Suddenly now she's incapable?

Loons. Why anyone would stay a member of that Church is beyond me.
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She taught sunday school for 54 years! Suddenly now she's incapable?

well

the country has been going down hill for about 50 years or so they keep saying
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