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Old 11-30-2002, 12:47 PM   #16
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Originally posted by The_Sweetest_Thing
I mean, this would mean they had to clone the baby from another baby...what parent will agree to have their child cloned?

Sorry to say, but i think LOTS would. think of the fame and fortune to follow. Definitely a lot of cameos on sit-coms at the least.

Remember those "parents" willing to name their baby after it's corporate sponsor?

Couple auctioning off naming rights for new baby boy
By Elizabeth Lesure, Associated Press, 07/26/01

NEW YORK -- Jason Black and Frances Schroeder don't know what they will name the baby boy they're expecting. But they aren't leafing through any "Name Your Baby" books.

Instead, the Mount Kisco couple is looking for a corporate sponsor to pay half a million dollars for their son's name.

Will he be "Heinz" or "Microsoft," "Coke" or "Kraft"? Only time -- and money -- will tell.

"It's the opportunity to have this media moment when the name would be unveiled," said Black, who is a business editor at Internet World in New York City. "The exposure that it could bring to a business is potentially huge, and we think it would be well worth the investment on their part."

The couple has put the naming rights up for auction on both eBay and Yahoo!, at a minimum bid of $500,000. The ads were posted July 18 and will run through July 28. So far, there have been no bidders, but the couple plans to extend their offer.

Black said the idea came to them after they had a dinner of Chinese takeout, followed by a fortune cookie that read: "You will have a new home by the end of the year."

"That's our dream," Black said. "That's every young family's perfect fantasy."

Black and Shroeder, both 32, live in a 2-bedroom apartment with their daughters, Josephine, 4, and Lois, 22 months. They are anticipating that the birth of their son -- expected within the next few days -- will leave them scrambling for more space.

"It's going to be a little crowded," Black said.

The couple hopes that money from the deal would allow them to buy a house and save for their children's college education.

They aren't the first "ordinary" people to ask for extraordinary corporate funding. Two New Jersey teen-agers recently became the "spokesguys" for credit card distributor First USA -- in exchange for a full ride to college.

Will their son be little "Mastercard"? Or "Visa"? Black said they have not ruled out anything -- except cigarette or gun brand names.

"Those are personal values of ours," Black said. "Those are certain standards that we feel we have to stick by."

And whether he is "Starbucks" (Buckie, for short?) or "Amazon," Black said that he is not worried that a corporate name might have an adverse affect on his son's development.

"As long as we provide him with a comfortable and loving home, he's going to turn out fine," Black said.

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Old 12-01-2002, 04:55 PM   #17
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I don't see how this helps humanity in any way whatsoever. What a tragedy.


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I read about this yesterday and the article also said the raelians also have some pregant members who are carrying cloned babies. Has anyone experienced the raelians? They have a chapter in this area. hmmmmmmmm..i hope their boss isn't the donor, odd boy.
It feels as though since WW2(probably earlier) we have been hurtling towards an uncertain future, just allowing new ways to emerge and put into practice without much thought and consideration. Some things are ethical and beneficial, some feel as though they are just satisfying a few individual egos and lining someone's pockets. Wicked imho.
I witness less and less tolerance and compassion for difference in the world, so not much surprises me these days. A world without nature? a sad place it would be.
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Old 12-01-2002, 06:55 PM   #19
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There are serious issues with cloning.

It has been noted that cloned animals are experiencing pre-mature aging. For example, Dolly suffers from juvenile onset arthritis, something that should NOT happen in your average sheep.

Much of the concern is centred around the loss of telomeric regions (anybody here who studies genetics will know about this). In rough terms, every time you replicate the DNA, you will lose some of the ends due to the fact DNA cannot be replicated continously on both strands. Since they're using adult cell lines, this could be an issue in premature aging.

Nobody knows what will happen to these children in 10 years, and that's a real tragedy.

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