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Old 03-22-2004, 09:42 AM   #1
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Will They Fine Oprah?

March 20, 2004 -- Howard Stern accused Oprah Winfrey of being a fellow potty-mouth yesterday, saying the afternoon TV queen has aired the same kind of kinky sexual material for which he was being pilloried.
"If they fine me for this, then they got to fine Oprah - the darling of the world," Stern told listeners after trying to play a shocking excerpt of an Oprah show on teen sex.

"And if they fine Oprah, all hell is gonna break loose."

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/21346.htm


I think this is interesting. Is the FCC being hypocritical if they don't go after Oprah? You can find transcripts of both conversations on HowardStern.com.
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Howard Stern is an asshole.
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So does it make it OK to not fine Oprah because she's not? I'll be the first to admit Stern is not on the top of my list as entertainers, but I do think he's being targeted and I do think it has a lot to do with his comments about Bush.
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indeed he is an asshole

i've only seen his show a couple times on TV and am NOT impressed with him at all...it seems like all i've seen him talk about on his show is trying to look up women's skirts at their underwear (among other disgusting things he's talked about that i've wondered why he hasn't been censored more).

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Stern is not on the top of my list as entertainers, but I do think he's being targeted
I agree

though comparing what he does to what Oprah does is a false comparison I guess since he does it for shock value only
(then again I'm quite sure for both of them the number 1 aim is to attract as many listeners = advertising money as possible)
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though comparing what he does to what Oprah does is a false comparison I guess since he does it for shock value only
(then again I'm quite sure for both of them the number 1 aim is to attract as many listeners = advertising money as possible)
Well I think that's the interesting point of this whole thing. Many are claiming Oprah's program shouldn't be fined because it was there to be "educational", but the FCC has now thrown out any rules of context. They went back on their ruling of Bono and are now fining. At first they said he didn't use it in a sexual context so it was OK, but now they are saying the word itself no matter what context is finable. If Stern got fined for this Oprah should too. I don't think they will and it just proves my point that this system doesn't work and this dinosaur should be put to sleep.
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well, following that line of thought they have no option but to also fine Oprah
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Well I think that's the interesting point of this whole thing. Many are claiming Oprah's program shouldn't be fined because it was there to be "educational", but the FCC has now thrown out any rules of context. They went back on their ruling of Bono and are now fining. At first they said he didn't use it in a sexual context so it was OK, but now they are saying the word itself no matter what context is finable. If Stern got fined for this Oprah should too. I don't think they will and it just proves my point that this system doesn't work and this dinosaur should be put to sleep.
Agreed.

If the FCC's going to get serious about this stuff, it'd help if they were consistent about it.

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The FCC is a tool of any presidential administration. Get rid of Bush, and you'll get rid of the reactionary fanatics that are in the FCC. While they do have "terms," tradition holds that all commissioners resign following a change in president, and the president gets to choose a whole new batch of people.

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The FCC is a tool of any presidential administration. Get rid of Bush, and you'll get rid of the reactionary fanatics that are in the FCC.
Not true. Consider the fact that the increase in fines for objectionable material got bipartisian support. Even Kerry gave his approval when Stern was yanked off six stations. Getting rid of Bush won't change things for folks like Howard Stern.


Also, the FCC acts on complaints. Has there been a complaint filed against Oprah? Has Stern filed a complaint, or is he full of hot air?
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I think it's hilarious that Stern was so pro-Bush when things were going Howard's way, and now that his buddy Bush's administration is hitting him with fines, he's pro-Kerry now.




And honestly, I have no opnion on this whole fining thing. I just think Howard's an asshole.
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Not true. Consider the fact that the increase in fines for objectionable material got bipartisian support. Even Kerry gave his approval when Stern was yanked off six stations. Getting rid of Bush won't change things for folks like Howard Stern.


Also, the FCC acts on complaints. Has there been a complaint filed against Oprah? Has Stern filed a complaint, or is he full of hot air?
Kerry did give his support he said they act within their rights. Clear Channel has the right to yank anyone they want. He gave the legal answer and chickened out on standing up for freedom of speech.

Does anyone have the voting results on this bill? I heard only one Republican voted against and he was quoted as saying they weren't high enough and very few Democrats voted for. But this could be completely wrong.


Yes there has been a complaint filed by Stern and many of his listeners. But anyone can file a complaint but do you think a complaint filed against Oprah will even be given a look over, no. That's why this system will never work. It comes down to the opinions of a few appointed people, and right now it's filled with some power hungry quacks who continually contradict themselves and over reach their bounds. There is no true definition of what is decent or not, but it lies in the hands of these few men and heavy fines. What if next administration finds Rush talking about gay marriage as indecent?
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Howard is right to point out inconsistencies. It is histerical that hispeople did not want him to AIR OPRAH clips for fear of fines.

And I agree...he has flip flopped on his candidates....but so have many people.

Finally he may be an asshole, but asshole or not, I think he is right on the money here.
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Does anyone have the voting results on this bill?
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2004/roll055.xml

I only wish this had been a bigger deal when I handled telecommunications issues, so I could've written letters about Bono.
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Looks pretty bipartisian to me....
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