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Old 12-20-2004, 07:30 AM   #16
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The road to Justice is a very hindered one...

'Will' he ever see Justice?

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I just heard on the BBC last night that the appeals court upheld the decision, saying basically that they are wise to his tactic of always being "medically unfit" at the opportune moment.
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''A thousand years of footsteps may tread this space
but the blood of those who died here will not be wiped away
and the hour of their death will not be forgotten
though 1000s of voices break the silence''

~ Pablo Neruda
You beat me darling, this is exactly what I was going to post. No one aside from Jara and Neruda could express so well the pain and anguish that millions of voiceless innocents felt under this horrific dictatorship.

He will be judged harshly, perhaps not in our lifetimes but he will see his deeds before him.

Another man I want to see brought to justice is Alberto Fujimori who is living in exile in Japan. What that man did to the poor, destitute sick, women and children is hideous. His forced sterilizations should not be forgotten!
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Old 12-21-2004, 11:01 AM   #20
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well i know this is sort of odd to ask, but do you believe these guys, dictators.. hitler saddam pinochet.. are gonna end up in hell? as someone who doesnt believe in a hell, ive got different theories about that. just curious what everyone else thinks.
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Old 12-21-2004, 11:08 AM   #21
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I don't believe in a hell, and so, I don't believe they will go to it once dead. I sometimes wish I did, though. Believe in Heaven and Hell, that is.

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Yes, I think all of these murderous dictators are going to Hell. In fact, they are the only people I think of for sure as going to Hell. Most of the time I don't think I know this because it's God's decision, not mine. I do believe in a Hell, and it's impossible to think these evil jerks aren't going to end up there.
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Another man I want to see brought to justice is Alberto Fujimori who is living in exile in Japan. What that man did to the poor, destitute sick, women and children is hideous. His forced sterilizations should not be forgotten!
..and there are actually people who want him back!
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Another man I want to see brought to justice is Alberto Fujimori who is living in exile in Japan. What that man did to the poor, destitute sick, women and children is hideous. His forced sterilizations should not be forgotten!
Me too. I really don't consider people like this human.
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thanks for a great discussion of real merit in this thread while I have been away

it's wonderful to see real discussion on real political issues of our day without all the usual conservative/liberal debate stuff.

Human rights and justice reach far beyond political labels.
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Old 12-21-2004, 10:40 PM   #26
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Hey Mr. Pinochet
You've sown a bitter crop
It's foreign money that supports you
One day the money's going to stop
No wages for your torturers
No budget for your guns
Can you think of your own mother
Dancin' with her invisible son
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