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Old 03-03-2005, 08:17 AM   #1
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Why we need these gay threads

I live in the city with the largest gay and lesbian population per capita of any city in the US except for San Francisco. And our headline today reads:

Man beaten in gay bashing clings to life

The 21-year-old Santa Fe man who police say was savagely beaten in a gay-bashing incident last weekend is clinging to life in critical condition, a family spokeswoman said Wednesday.

“We’re not out of the woods yet,” Rachel Rosen said. “The doctors say he will be getting worse before he gets better.”

At least four young Santa Fe men beat James Maestas early Sunday morning in a Cerrillos Road motel parking lot, police said.

An Albuquerque man with Maestas suffered minor injuries during the assault, in which police say the attackers repeatedly called the two men “faggots.”

Maestas apparently was kicked so hard the food in his stomach came up his throat and went into his lungs, Rosen said. Stomach acid badly burned his lungs, she said, and he is breathing with the help of a respirator.

He has been running a fever and must be monitored closely, because the risk of infection is high, Rosen said.

Maestas’ face and mouth are bruised and swollen, she said. “They haven’t even been able to see if he has all his lower teeth because his lower lip is so mangled.”

While a brain scan didn’t reveal any damage, she said, it’s too early to tell for sure. Maestas has not regained consciousness, and doctors are keeping him sedated, she said.

Doctors don’t know whether he will suffer permanent damage from the attack if he pulls through, Rosen said.

Rosen, who has known Maestas’ mother for 10 years, said the Maestas family is “traumatized” by the situation, but is a supportive, loving group of people.

“They are a wonderful family ,” she said.

Gabriel Maturin, 20, Isaia Medina, 19, and David Trinidad , 17, have been charged in connection with the beating, and police say three other men also were present during the violence.

District Attorney Henry Valdez said Wednesday that the case will be presented soon to a grand jury, which might decide to charge one or more of the men whom police didn’t arrest.

The prosecutor has said longer sentences could be imposed for convictions in the case under a 2003 state law if a jury finds a hate crime occurred.

Meanwhile, a Santa Fe group is planning a candlelight vigil for Maestas at 6 p.m. Saturday on the Plaza.

“The purpose is to show community support against hate crimes,” said Ross Randall , a board member of Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays of Santa Fe.

Rosen, who chairs a group called Equality New Mexico, said she is setting up a fund to help pay some of Maestas’ medical bills.

She said donations to the “Love Conquers Hate Fund” can be sent to P.O. Box 25683, Albuquerque, NM 87125.

Rosen said she wouldn’t have called Santa Fe a dangerous place for gay people if she had been asked her opinion last Saturday. Now, she thinks differently.

“Santa Fe is known to be a gay-friendly town nationally,” she said. “If it can happen in Santa Fe, it can happen anywhere , and does.”
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Old 03-03-2005, 08:20 AM   #2
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we've made some progress, but we still have a long, long road ahead.

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this happens all the time, and like rape, it often goes unreported.

i've said it before, i'll say it again: homophobia kills.
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Old 03-03-2005, 08:37 AM   #4
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Some people seem to think this is perfectly decent, logical behavior these days. They are getting enough encouragement.
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kind of says it all
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this happens all the time, and like rape, it often goes unreported.

i've said it before, i'll say it again: homophobia kills.
I just don't recall it ever happening here--or at least reported as the headline on the front page. There is hardly a safer place on the planet for gays and lesbians than this town--gay couples walk down the street openly affectionate--and yet this hideous thing has happened. What's so disturbing is that it was teenagers who did it. Well I guess it doesn't matter who it was but in some way it seems worse to me because I expect this younger generation to be cooler about gays than mine was.
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Well I guess it doesn't matter who it was but in some way it seems worse to me because I expect this younger generation to be cooler about gays than mine was.
I think we have a whole new crop of hatemongers that are influencing our children.

I mean just look in here, you have these very young people saying things like "I'm glad we made our voice heard at the polls", "We told America this was about morals", etc.

It's sickening.
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Old 03-03-2005, 11:10 AM   #10
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You're right BVS...

And the plot thickens, from the Albuquerque Journal:

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One of the suspects, David Trinidad, 17, already is on probation for raping a 4 1/2-year-old boy, according to Assistant District Attorney Heidi Pircher.
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disgusting. that is the first word that came to mind.

where did all this fucking hate come from? how can we stop our children from listening and learning this crap?
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That's horrible.
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One of the suspects, David Trinidad, 17, already is on probation for raping a 4 1/2-year-old boy, according to Assistant District Attorney Heidi Pircher
This shows that the "suspect" had little consideration for anybody, gay or straight.
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disgusting. that is the first word that came to mind.

where did all this fucking hate come from?

guilt free hate is tolerated and encouraged


So called leaders in the mainstream?
play a part in this

"HATE the sin"
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...that's disgraceful-I hope the jackasses who did that are soundly punished.

That poor man...I hope that he gets better.

I don't understand what in the hell is wrong with some people. Arrrrrggggghhh....
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