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Old 12-21-2004, 05:02 PM   #16
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If one can compare Saddam to Rumsfeld, then I guess one could compare Roosevelt to Hitler.
how...BOLD of you to come up with such an amazing and logical comparison. you really got me there didn't you?

yes, quite cunning indeed. how'd i ever fall into such a trap?
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Old 12-22-2004, 07:00 AM   #17
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What about now, is he gone already?
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Old 12-22-2004, 09:48 AM   #18
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If one can compare Saddam to Rumsfeld,





two peas in a pod


Bush, Cheney, etc. consider FDR a "Socialist" not a Nazi.

They are working hard to dismantle his social programs with their phoney "Ownership society" that rewards the people that own them,
and throws working people like you under the tracks.
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Old 12-22-2004, 02:34 PM   #19
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but what's this! a picture of rumsfeld shaking hands with saddam?!

oh, but that was before he was a bad guy right? it's not like he was gassing anyone, or anything...
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Yes Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam to ensure a workable relationship during a war against Iran - as did so many other players, Jaques Chirac walking Saddam through a nuclear plant to demonstrate why Saddam should "buy French" at Osirak is a good example of this. The raw ammounts of millitary equipment came from the USSR, France, China and Germany. Not saying it was the right thing to do, but there is a context for that.
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Old 12-22-2004, 11:08 PM   #21
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A_Wanderer, did you see the SBS doco on Rumsfeld about 2 weeks ago?
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Old 12-23-2004, 10:52 AM   #22
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yes, and what fine context wanderer!

i guess he only became evil after the war in iran.

kind of like osama vs. the soviets, but hey, that's a topic in itself.
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The context was that Iran could well have beaten Iraq and the entire Gulf State oil would be under the control of a single power that was against the US, this would have drastically altered the course of the Cold War - because of that it was wiser to give slight support to Saddam.

An article on why it would be wrong to get rid of Rumsfeld is here: http://victorhanson.com/articles/hanson122304.html
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