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Old 07-11-2006, 11:06 AM   #46
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As for their family that could be "turned into monsters", what do you suggest we do to deter that?
Well that's really what a part of this whole thread is about...but surely saying the way we treat them doesn't matter, is not a start.
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Old 07-11-2006, 11:08 AM   #47
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It doesn't matter to me me whether they're born that way or not. No one forced them to do these things; they choose to do the things they do.

We do not "stoop" to their level. A small group of soldiers did when they raped that poor girl and killed her family. That small group of soldiers should be executed as soon as they are convicted, so that the world will know that this is how the US handles terrorists from any country.

Admittedly, there have also been other incidents that were wrong, also.

But the vast majority of US soldiers over there do not commit inhumane acts.

As for their family that could be "turned into monsters", what do you suggest we do to deter that?
Just as the vast majority of Iraqis have committed no inhumane acts. Why should they be punished? They are the families, parents, wives and children you refer to as being ‘turned into monsters’.
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Here is a question, for those of you who are posting here, have you seen the video I posted in this link?? Or do you only watch those slide shows of what are bombs have done to insurgents or the accidently maiming of our bombs. People in the military try to avoid civilian casualties. We don't purposly drive our trucks and tanks next to a crowd of people and blow them up for no reason. You post how we kill many innocents, when in reality it's the insurgents who are doing the most killing in the civilian population.
Well now you're changing the subject of the thread.
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Well they are thanks to a new form of Islam a corrupt one at that.
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Well now you're changing the subject of the thread.
No I am not. Don't you think we show weakness by not reliating in a vengeful way like they did to these 2 soldiers who had nothing to do with the rape and murders?
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No I am not. Don't you think we show weakness by not reliating in a vengeful way like they did to these 2 soldiers who had nothing to do with the rape and murders?
What did that have to do with any of this?

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Or do you only watch those slide shows of what are bombs have done to insurgents or the accidently maiming of our bombs. People in the military try to avoid civilian casualties. We don't purposly drive our trucks and tanks next to a crowd of people and blow them up for no reason. You post how we kill many innocents, when in reality it's the insurgents who are doing the most killing in the civilian population.

But to answer your question. No, revenge is weak.
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What did that have to do with any of this?




But to answer your question. No, revenge is weak.
So if another 9/11 happened what shall we do sit back and take it or seek revenge?
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There's a hell of a difference between seeking revenge and taking action to prevent further attacks. The US had, if not all the world, the sizeable chunks of it on its side during the fall of 2001. Not so anymore and the perception that the actions of the US are due to vengefulness and serving its own interests has a lot to do with that in my opinion.
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So if another 9/11 happened what shall we do sit back and take it or seek revenge?
You're missing the point. I never said any form of retaliation is wrong. But there's a big difference in going into Afghanistan and going after those that were responsible and blowing up whole cities like some are suggesting in here.
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Those men in the video were innocent and did not deserve it. The woman who was raped and had her family murdered did not deserve it. So the insurgents decided to seek revenge, even though it was not there family and they killed innocent people.
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what was 9/11?

i say fight fire with fire. do to them what they do to us, and then some. you cant beat an enemy of this type by humane treatment and worrying about what other countries think.
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Those men in the video were innocent and did not deserve it. The woman who was raped and had her family murdered did not deserve it. So the insurgents decided to seek revenge, even though it was not there family and they killed innocent people.
...you point being? I didn't know that 'do unto others' worked in reverse as well.
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...you point being? I didn't know that 'do unto others' worked in reverse as well.
Exactly.
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...you point being? I didn't know that 'do unto others' worked in reverse as well.
Sorry they follow the Koran not the Bible. So there interpretation of do unto others is exactly what they did.
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Fucking scary when someone suggest we pull a 9/ 11 attack(and then some) and this is the response he gets.

Who knew supporting terrorism was so cool?
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