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Old 09-07-2005, 03:37 PM   #16
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Verte, there is another way you can articulate your rage. Send your own, or better yet, organize a mass group email from your CHURCH CONGREGATION (that'll go over well with the Admin crowd) to your local Senator and Congressman specifically asking for a COMMISSION (NOT an "investigation", you have to use the word "commission" ) to begin investigating the Katrina disaster ASAP. We must help the victims and grieve for the dead, and we must rebuild..but the rebuilding will take years. In the meantime, we can't let our grief submerge the righteous sense of anger we felt watching our TV screens last week. WE MUST TAKE ACTION NOW.

I have my opinions about this, but I will not repeat them here. Suffice it to say that there are a LOT of officials in govt of both parties, at all levels, who are running scared. The FEMA director has even gone into hiding, and Governor Blanco has also fallen silent. We have to let our public officials know that we, the people, to quote the good Mayor, are "pissed."

Right now, there is bipartisan support for hearings. Both Houses of Congress have set up hearings. But hearings, and investigation, will not produce hard answers. Local, State, and Fed governments can conduct an "investigation" any way they want, and pref. behind closed doors. A Commission, by contrast, is arbitrarily a public excercise, since it establishes specific people to subpenoa all relevant parties to publicly testify, and most important, they have the power to subpenoa the all-important documents that would who really did what. You can bet that right now, from Washington all down the South, there are more documents being shredded, it makes Oliver North look like a treehugging leftie. . That's why we can't heed Bush's call to put off asking questions until later. The longer we wait, the longer the politicians, from the Mayor's office and Plice headquarters all the way up to the Oval Office, have to spin their sid eof the story and screw we, the people.

So mourn the dead, but fight like hell for the living. Don't let the bastards drag you down.
Maybe a good place to start is my fave site, sojo.net...
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:00 PM   #17
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I have been praying for these people every day. I have been trying to help as much from my home town as I can. 750 people are coming here to the coliseum today. We are collecting food for the food bank to provide them with 3 meals a day & clean clothes. Then I read today about pets being ripped from peoples arms in the SuperDome--perhaps the last bit of hope some people had. I just about broke down at work reading this.
I agree with you 100%. I think every little bit helps. Whatever you can do. My church is orginizing a fund rasier and and a food drive for the ppl that come to Kansas City. So far we have 150 ppl from N.O. that are trying to start over here. I know your prayers have been heard because we are all praying together for the same thing.
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Who is this Denesha?

You know how those people lie.



There is no evidense to back up this crap.


Our President is sending Hon. Dick Cheney
to this part of the country.

He will tell us the truth.
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I think deep was being sarcastic.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:26 PM   #20
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I think deep was being sarcastic.
I would hope so...Thank you for the article Irvine. I just emailed it to my co-workers who are so out of the loop it is pathetic They all remind me of Babs W. Bush
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oh....I'm sure deep was being very sarcastic.... I've seen him either be quite articulate and on occasion sarcastic....

SInce sometimes articulating myself dosen't/can't counter all the fury I sometimes will feel......

I too will switch into sarcasm/ "dark" humour/absurd humour or viscious tirades, stinging poetry or i have a few pieces of art i've either done or are still in my head regarding this Natural Catastropy & Manmade Atrocity.


'thinking that they had been sent there to die.......'
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Rescues performed 32,000

Shelters 559

People housed in shelters 182,000

FEMA responders 7,000

U.S. Coast Guard personnel 4,000

National Guard personnel 43,000

Active Duty Military 15,000

MREs provided (meals) 11.3 million

Water provided (liters) 18 million

On the Net: www.fema.gov.
That's all fine and dandy but do you know how long it took for these people to get there? How come all the journalists are able to get there but the FEMA didn't get there until it was one giant mess? It's disgusting.
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Who is this Denesha?

You know how those people lie.



There is no evidense to back up this crap.


Our President is sending Hon. Dick Cheney
to this part of the country.

He will tell us the truth.


I am sitting here after reading irvine's post and deep's little comment here. one makes me want to cry my eyes out and rant and scream ...

... and the other makes me laugh like a loon.

deep, you take the cake.
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Verte, there is another way you can articulate your rage. Send your own, or better yet, organize a mass group email from your CHURCH CONGREGATION (that'll go over well with the Admin crowd) to your local Senator and Congressman specifically asking for a COMMISSION (NOT an "investigation", you have to use the word "commission" ) to begin investigating the Katrina disaster ASAP. ... WE MUST TAKE ACTION NOW.

I have my opinions about this, but I will not repeat them here. Suffice it to say that there are a LOT of officials in govt of both parties, at all levels, who are running scared. The FEMA director has even gone into hiding, and Governor Blanco has also fallen silent. We have to let our public officials know that we, the people, to quote the good Mayor, are "pissed."

Right now, there is bipartisan support for hearings. Both Houses of Congress have set up hearings. But hearings, and investigation, will not produce hard answers. Local, State, and Fed governments can conduct an "investigation" any way they want, and pref. behind closed doors. A Commission, by contrast, is arbitrarily a public excercise, since it establishes specific people to subpenoa all relevant parties to publicly testify, and most important, they have the power to subpenoa the all-important documents that would who really did what.

So mourn the dead, but fight like hell for the living. Don't let the bastards drag you down.
Maybe a good place to start is my fave site, sojo.net...

Please keep in mind that the staff of many congresspersons largely ignore email, as emails can be (and unfortunately, occasionally are) written in the heat of a moment. I'm not saying that's it right that they do so, just saying that they do often ignore emails.

Please consider a good old fashioned letter writing campaign. Or a new fashioned one. Draft a letter explaining your concerns and print many copies. Ask people to sign a copy, put it in an envelope addressed to the senator or congressperson and ask that each person put their own home address as the return address on their copy of the letter.

Snail mail may take longer to arrive, but is less likely to be ignored by congressional staffers. I have already mailed mine.
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Old 09-08-2005, 02:35 AM   #25
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Reading this makes me so fucking angry right now. Nobody really gave or gives a shit about these people and it's despicable.

Sorry for the swearing but this is just completely wrong with what these people are enduring.
I can't agree more. I'm amazed and angry at what is happening...
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oh my god....
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This whole mess is disturbing, depressing and depraved. I've tried keeping up with the news coming out of NOLA (both the media's "news" and details reported here), but after dealing with my dad's sudden death last Monday, I can only take it in small increments... it just leaves me feeling so hollow.

Anyway, the point I intended to make is that while I wholeheartedly agree that the handling of Katrina has been a national embarrassment, the thought also occurred to me that some of the problem is in the fact that although there may have been a Disaster Plan in existence, I'm sure no one ever did any practice runs. Evacuating an entire city is a massive logistical nightmare.

I'm not trying to make excuses for anyone... there's plenty of blame to go around. But with communications down for the first few days, mass confusion & unimaginable conditions, I can at least understand how local authorities were initially unsure how to or unable to mount a well-organized relief effort.
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I'm so sorry about your father. I didn't know .
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I'm so sorry about your father. I didn't know .
I won't elaborate here b/c I dont' want to hijack this thread, but it was quite a shock to say the least. Thank you for your kind words.
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