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Old 07-10-2005, 09:47 PM   #106
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and we call the american flag the.....american flag
Not the U.S. flag
Or the united states of north america flag
just a thought
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Old 07-11-2005, 04:03 AM   #107
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Oceania is,as A_Wanderer described, the name of a region consisting of Australia, New Zealand, Polynesia, etc

Australia is Latin for South Land. I would expect the word for "Australia" in Spanish, (a Latin based language) to be very samiliar to "Australia".

PS I didnt make it to the Geo Museum today. I will try again tomorrow.
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Les Etats Unis. (French)

Ameriki (that's the Bambara word).

Toubabu! (what every white person gets called here in Mali).

I hear these interchangeably but if I get the choice I like to be known as [my name], not as some person from some country or "white girl".

Typical day in my life in Mali

Random child on side of road: "Toubab! Toubab!"
Me: "Eh! Togo te n bolo? N togo te toubab de, ale ye Koumba ye!" (what...I don't have a name? My name's not "Toubab", it's Koumba")

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People from the US are referred to as Americans not because they chose to be, but because they were called this by the British during the colonial days.

People living in what was to become the United States, for the most part, still saw themselves as Britons in the days leading up to the Declaration of Independence. The word "Americans" was used by the British in a derogatory way, as if to say "no, you're not really British, you're American".

Even after the revolution, there was no sense of national cohesion, and most people would have referred to themselves, and preferred to be referred to as, Virginians, New Yorkers, etc. That's why the country almost fell apart early on, and probably would have without George Washington.

If you had referred to someone from Pennsylvania as an American in 1776, he probably would have been confused or offended or both. It wasn't until well into George Washington's time as president that Americans came to see themselves and refer to themselves as Americans, and this was 15 or 20 years after independence was declared.

Bottom line is, Americans aren't called Americans because they asked to be. It was just something that stuck.
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Beli is at work so I can sneak a reply without pissing her off I wonder if it is mainly us outside folk who call folk from the US, Americans. Infact, now that I think about it, most of you guys and in general, refer to yourselves as US and such and it is us rest of the worlders who do the "American" crime. Except for the Canadians who are obviously as informed on the topic. Perhaps it is not arrogance at all which is the problem, but naivety from the rest of the world?
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Beli is at work so I can sneak a reply without pissing her off I wonder if it is mainly us outside folk who call folk from the US, Americans. Infact, now that I think about it, most of you guys and in general, refer to yourselves as US and such and it is us rest of the worlders who do the "American" crime. Except for the Canadians who are obviously as informed on the topic. Perhaps it is not arrogance at all which is the problem, but naivety from the rest of the world?
Nah, that idea makes too much sense.

It's easier to just blame the Americans.
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Nah, that idea makes too much sense.

It's easier to just blame the Americans.
Okay... South Park sing-a-long time:

BLAME CANADA! BLAME CANADA! (THEY'RE NOT EVEN A REAL COUNTRY ANYWAY.)

Disclaimer: Blame South Park! I have nothing against Canada. Kyle's mom did it.
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Okay... South Park sing-a-long time:

BLAME CANADA! BLAME CANADA! (THEY'RE NOT EVEN A REAL COUNTRY ANYWAY.)

Disclaimer: Blame South Park! I have nothing against Canada. Kyle's mom did it.


This guy at my school always wears an "Invade Canada" shirt....
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Beli is at work so I can sneak a reply without pissing her off I wonder if it is mainly us outside folk who call folk from the US, Americans. Infact, now that I think about it, most of you guys and in general, refer to yourselves as US and such and it is us rest of the worlders who do the "American" crime. Except for the Canadians who are obviously as informed on the topic. Perhaps it is not arrogance at all which is the problem, but naivety from the rest of the world?
Your "rest of the world" comment is too much of a generalization... no one in Latin America, for instance, calls U.S. citizens, Americans... they are either "estadounidenses" or "yanquis".
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Beli is at work so I can sneak a reply without pissing her off I wonder if it is mainly us outside folk who call folk from the US, Americans. Infact, now that I think about it, most of you guys and in general, refer to yourselves as US and such and it is us rest of the worlders who do the "American" crime. Except for the Canadians who are obviously as informed on the topic. Perhaps it is not arrogance at all which is the problem, but naivety from the rest of the world?
lol. Depends what circles you circulate in, I guess.

Besides some of the people from the USA on this very board say 'Americans' .

But yes, you are correct in that I'm too tired to be pissed off today. lol
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Your "rest of the world" comment is too much of a generalization... no one in Latin America, for instance, calls U.S. citizens, Americans... they are either "estadounidenses" or "yanquis".
I hoped it would be clear enough that those who share the American continent would be excluded, along with the Canadians. And I suppose yanqui is better than seppo

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