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Old 07-03-2007, 06:58 PM   #16
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Jimmy Carter, as good of a guy as he is, had a terrible presidency. The energy crisis, lax foreign policy (Iran hostage scandal anyone?), and terrible dealings with the Soviets all around ('80 Olympics, Carter Doctrine, and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan).
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That's why people say he's the best ex-President...and why he wasn't reelected.
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That's why people say he's the best ex-President...and why he wasn't reelected.
Call me crazy, but if Ahnuld wasn't foreign, I could totally see him having a Reagan-like campaign in '08. The parallels are uncanny.
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Be happy, Austrians shouldn't become leaders of foreign nations.
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or California for that matter
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don't you mean Cal-E-forn-E-ah?!
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You have no clue who I do or don't trust. You have no clue my voting record. So don't be fooled into thinking you know shit about me.
From reading your posts, I would assume you are a very liberal democrat who believes voting for those who seem to advertise your beliefs will bring a positive change to the country. But if you have a voting record at all, you are the one who's been fooled.

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So will voting. I'm not wasting my time, you will. The result will be the same.
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Be happy, Austrians shouldn't become leaders of foreign nations.
Ha.

Last November I was speaking English with a visiting friend at a very non-touristy beisl in Vienna and this whole table of sketchy old drunk men was watching us eat our schnitzl and staring at us. Finally one of them (who was practically sitting backwards to stare at us) asked in broken English where we were from, and my friend is from California. He turned around and thought for a while and then turned back and informed us that Arnold would be the president of the US in 2 years. I tried to explain that his Geburtsplatz wasn't in America so that couldn't happen but it didn't get through quite right as I didn't know the word for constitution in German. This conversation went on for like 10 minutes, all the while my friend was snorting into her Radler and I was trying to keep a straight face while I talked. It's such a stereotype, the Austrian getting all excited about Arnold's American political career...
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Well, who would've thought that Arnold ever became such a successful actor, not alone because of his accent, and now he even became Governor of one of the most popular states of the US.

I think most people in Germany and Austria got positively surprised that he even got re-elected and seems to do rather well.

Austria itself is doing quite well itself, but it's hardly recognized as it's so small and doesn't have so many well-known, international companies. So I can imagine that Austrians look with some pride at what Arnold Schwarzenegger has achieved.

But I can't say for sure, because I haven't rreally been to Austria myself (just went through).

Constitution is Verfassung if you still want to know.
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The love of Richard Nixon,
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Ah, the love of richard nixon,
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From reading your posts, I would assume you are a very liberal democrat who believes voting for those who seem to advertise your beliefs will bring a positive change to the country. But if you have a voting record at all, you are the one who's been fooled.
So then how does change come about, though chaos?

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So will voting. I'm not wasting my time, you will. The result will be the same.
So taking a left turn and taking a right turn will get you in the same place? That sounds pretty ignorant.
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i don't find him to be that bad of a president. of course, i am referring to his policies, not his outside activities, which i won't get into. he was the first major modern politician to embrace the idea of environmentalism. he began diplomatic talks w/ both the soviets and chinese. Ultimately, watergate lost him his status and that is why people dislike him, and that is when the war in vietnam started to take a fall. we lost that war not because we couldn't win it, but because our country didn't want too.
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i don't find him to be that bad of a president. of course, i am referring to his policies, not his outside activities, which i won't get into. he was the first major modern politician to embrace the idea of environmentalism. he began diplomatic talks w/ both the soviets and chinese. Ultimately, watergate lost him his status and that is why people dislike him, and that is when the war in vietnam started to take a fall. we lost that war not because we couldn't win it, but because our country didn't want too.
That's quite a revisionist view of what happened...
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That's quite a revisionist view of what happened...
oh really........so you are saying he wasn't an environmentalist?
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oh really........so you are saying he wasn't an environmentalist?
That's the part you think I'm talking about
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