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Old 01-26-2004, 06:20 PM   #1
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Why are liberals so noisy?

I am attending a VERY liberal university on the east coast. Every day I am surrounded by students and professors pledging their hate for Bush, corporate America (even though most of them want jobs there so they can afford to live in Manhattan), and just about every other non-liberal entity.

It's not their views that really bothers me, but it's how they express their views. IMO, most liberals are very intrusive and annoying. Why do they feel the need to bash the president at any cost? Why do they feel the need to shove their beliefs down my throat? Why do they feel the need to partake in various kinds of civil disobediance?

What's even more interesting is that many of the liberals I have met want to save the world, but their personal lives are a mess. They usually have little structured religion or belief in God, lots of affairs and cheating, and usually some kind of addiction to either drinking or drugs. How about fixing your own life before you fix mine?

Some of you may take this as another 'attack from the right,' but it's not. It's more of a question. If you're offended by this, well, maybe the truth hurts.
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LOVED your generalizations.
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LOVED your generalizations.
I was talking about the liberals I have met here in New York and that I have read about bashing Bush.
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And those are not generalizations because...?
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IMO, most liberals are very intrusive and annoying

sounds like a generalization to me
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Another intelligent and thought provoking thread...
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Since when are Generalizations not allowed in FYM? Or is it just allowed when they are directed at republicans or the religious right?
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Wolfwill, you are going to have to see to it that this thread generates some meaningful debate or it will be closed. All you have done so far is to make some blanket statements about "liberals," none of which are particularly interesting or new, and most of which could equally well apply to conservatives. Replace "Bush" with "Clinton" and "liberals" with "conservatives" and your post would still make sense; e.g.

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What's even more interesting is that many of the conservatives I have met want to save the world, but their personal lives are a mess. They usually have too much structured religion or belief in God, lots of affairs and cheating, and usually some kind of addiction to either drinking or drugs (see William Bennett, Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, and more). How about fixing your own life before you fix mine?
So, against my better judgment, I'll leave this thread open for now. But it needs to go somewhere fast.
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We do discourage that kind of thing around here, Dread.
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Yes there are generalizations thrown around in here. But Dread come on, have you seen anyone start a thread like this attacking conservatives with absolutely no facts, examples, etc. just a bitch session as to why someone thinks all conservatives are loud, obnoxious, racist, smelly, ugly, or dumb?
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Maybe this will help. Instead of generalizations, let's take a specific example. I've always been perplexed by publications like the L.A. Weekly. It has a very liberal slant editorial wise (corporation don't care for the people, Republicans are the worst thing for us, conservatives and evangelical Christians hate everbody, etc). But the overall focus of the advertisements is on extreme self-gratitude. Nothing about putting the editorial position into practice (taking care of others).

I'm not saying that conservative publications are perfect. Just in this one instance, there seems to be a noisy editorial board that fills it publication with things that don't apply their position.

Just one thing that perplexes me.
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It's OK to say "some liberals are too self-indulgent" because that's true. *Some* I know don't have much of a sense of responsibility and blame others for their problems. Before I get nuked, I know that's not true of all liberals. I hope it's not true of me. It's better to take specific examples of people who do things of which we don't approve, like nbcrusader did in that criticism of the liberal publication which indeed sounds like it might have questionable logic in some of its articles. No one is perfect. There is some real in alot of publications out there. It's an election year, people are emotional, politics is a collision sport, and not everyone survives the competition.
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I agree with Dread.
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no wonder they're loud! they're yankees! not to mention, conservatives weren't exactly quiet when clinton was president
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