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Old 02-22-2005, 09:25 PM   #16
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Abe is #1... here's a few other favorites of mine:

Washington
Jefferson
Taft - just for getting stuck in the bathtub
FD Roosevelt
Kennedy
Carter
Reagan
Bush Sr
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Old 02-22-2005, 11:34 PM   #17
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FDR. He was a great President when we needed one big time. The pressure was on, and he delivered.
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Old 02-22-2005, 11:39 PM   #18
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Bill Clinton. He had goog taste in music.
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Old 02-23-2005, 05:28 AM   #19
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Bill Clinton is my favorite. He made a mistake with not fessing up about Monica but his hard work and dedication to making life better for normal hard working americans makes up for it.
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I liked Clinton also, I should have said that in my post. I thought he was very fair to the average person. He did make some mistakes.
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Lincoln
Jefferson
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Old 02-23-2005, 06:58 AM   #22
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Michael Douglas
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In NO particular order:
FDR
Clinton
Kennedy
Lincoln
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Michael Douglas
good movie

let's not forget martin sheen
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Old 02-23-2005, 11:35 AM   #25
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Bill Pullman deserves some kudos. I mean, when the aliens attacked--he was right there on the front lines, jumping into a fighter plane. And his rallying speech ranks up there with FDR's "a day of infamy."
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OH i must add:
William Henry Harrison (sure he was only president for a month... )
and Benjamin Harrison

why? they're my relatives!!
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Old 02-23-2005, 12:23 PM   #27
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In no order...

Clinton - I really don't care what he did sexually or with who, it doesn't change the fact that the man was/is a dipolmatic genius. He a charisma, a way with words, an intelligence, that elevated him. He was THIS close to having a peace deal with Isreal/Palestine. Only reason it didn't happen was because Arafat didn't accept it in time. By the time he did, GWB was in office and the deal wasn't on the table anymore(boo).

Carter - I know he wasn't a very effective president, and yes, we can thank him for credit card inflation. But he is a good man. An honest man. And he had nothing but good intentions. I'd like to see that more often in politicians. He had a down-to-earth-ness, an inherent decency and honesty, that men like John Kerry and GWB could never dream of having.

FDR - Got us through WWII and the Depression. Put the New Deal in place. Got elected to FOUR terms, and is the reason we limit presidents to two terms now.

Kennedy - Was very idealistic, strived for unity. In terms of ideals and goals and desires, reminds me of MLK more than any other president.

Lincoln - the only Republican to make my list. Got us through the Civil War. Ended slavery with the Emancipation Proclamation. And when you make a speech like the Gettysburg address..."a house divided against itself cannot stand"...you become one of the great presidents. Those words could fit the current political landscape in this country like a glove.
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i guess kennedy would be my pick. as far as that clinton thing, i don't give a fuck if the president has an orgy, as long as i don't have to watch it. sure, he cheated a little, but people make mistakes.
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I'm not best served to vote for anyone pre-war as I'd have no idea but I'd have to say Clinton did great things for your country, a pity you allowed personal issues and 'a good story' to get in the way. I wouldn't even call it a mistake, it's a personal thing, not illegal and completely unrelated to politics.
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Old 02-24-2005, 11:19 AM   #30
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I wouldn't even call it a mistake, it's a personal thing, not illegal and completely unrelated to politics.


It was a dishonest mistake, he committed perjury by lying to the American people, and it represented the degrading of our ethical code of conduct. His actions represented our country as much as Bush's actions do. Adultery is a major mistake, and please don't ask me to define "adultery" for you.
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