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Old 06-16-2005, 04:19 AM   #16
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Ok, firstly it's the tone of this article. Bias is not uncommon, but it bugs me no end to see immature writing in journalism. I'm sure both sides can see the poor quality of it. But that alone is no big deal I guess. What comes from that though, is more of the implication that there is absolute right and wrong in this whole Guantanamo situation. Therefore, you either need to be of the opinion that the personnel working there are all redneck hicks with no respect, who are violent, who mistreat the detainees, who are all for prolonging incarceration without trial. Surely everyone knows this is not the case. Or on the opposite end, the same is also true. Surely. That not all the detainess are downtrodden mistreated innocents who are having every human right violated.
My point is, I reckon there is partial truth in both sides. Attempting to sully the opposing view with juvenile commentary is not going to get anyone near the truth. Did any staff mistreat the Korans? It would seem not. That is a genuinely good thing. If true, and I am going to assume it is, then this fact is good news. Is it then fact to paint Guantanamo as a pillar of justice and fairness? Not according to any dictionary definition of such. Contrary to that, is it then fair to paint Guantanamo as an American Gulag? Not bloody likely. I'm going to guess the truth is somewhere in the middle, that some staff working there are like any in a correctional facility who act as cowboys do actually mistreat those under their care. I'm going to guess a much larger portion treat the detainees with as much respect as they can, like the majority of staff in correctional environments do. Like humans do. Like most militaries are trained to do. I'm going to guess there are some detainees who make working there damned difficult and use every opportunity to either cause trouble or utilise the media for whatever gain. Again, contrarily, I'm going to guess some behave and either miserably await the truth of their innocence to come forth in due time or alternatively accept their fate and their guilt will soon be known - whichever, and go about as well as they can without too much fuss.
It isn't either good or bad; it is a place which contains both. To imply that it is only one, is in my opinion wrong. This article is like many others from either side which seems to do just that.
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I agree with you Angie. No group of people is complete scum, and no group is completely saintly and without fault. It's somewhere in between. The inmates fought for the Taliban. But they have good traits, too, like loyalty. Either group is perfectly capable of abusing Korans. You can't put anything past a group of people who've been involved in morally questionable activities.
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The author of the article is a member of the Council on Foreign relations. I resent the tone of the post implying you must be BRAINDEAD to think it is a decent article. I am not saying that everything written is Gospel...but it is fair to present such a case given the BIASED media portrayal of the alleged Koran abuse.

I fail to see how this article is interpreted to be a GITMO is an awesome place. I see it as presenting the entire story....something most do not care to hear.
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Old 06-20-2005, 04:57 PM   #19
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Yes, media is biased, as my last reply agreed. See it as presenting the entire story if you must, knock yourself out. I cannot see how it is an entire anything when it is as guilty as the opposing camp for petulant self justification.
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Old 06-20-2005, 05:47 PM   #21
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I'm busting for a pee and about to be kicked off my net cafe time, but you know this is not a personal jab at you, and that I am fully allowed to feel this is a silly article. I could quote it to show you where, but you're smart enough and I cant be bothered patronising you. We dont have to go there lol.

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