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Old 09-22-2002, 10:11 PM   #31
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I would KEEP Babe Ruth.
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I would KEEP Babe Ruth.
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Then who of the other candidates would you select to have never been born?
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The original question is which 3 of the 8 would I have killed. My answer is none of them.

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Re: Who would you bump off?

The question was poorly worded and did not make much sense.

Gandhi, MLK Jr and Abraham Lincoln were all killed.

I thought the exercised was devised to make the students evaluate the contributions these people made. That is why I answered it with the criteria: Who would you select not to have been born?
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Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussein, and Osama bin Laden.
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Stalin got a pass?
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Old 09-22-2002, 11:46 PM   #38
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In response to those people that were defending Shakespeare I'd just like to make it clear that William could write. He could write very beautifully, but I felt that his words didn't propel humanity in ANY direction. They were medieval sitcoms and dramas....

...and no I don't think that ALL Shakespeare admirers are pretentious....just the bigger lot of them . I like the comment someone made about how intelligence and a love and understanding of his work are not synonymous with each other. That's a great point.
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Without Hitler's existence, perhaps Stalin could have been kept in check. But his non-existence would have been equally pleasing.

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We couldn't name one of Picasso's works
You're kidding me!

That needs to be solved... but I'll refrain for now
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definitely PICASSO. Damn womaniser, and his paintings are incredibly bo-RING.


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U2Bama: without Hitler perhaps Stalin could have been kept in check... interesting point... perhaps is the right word though.

With only three persons its surely difficult to decide... if I had the free pick, IŽd go Hitler, Saddam, Ochoa. IŽd trade Monzer Al Kassar against Jack Ruby and Reagan against Kennedy. Oh, I forgot Maggie Thatcher, Haider, Berlusconi and Osama... youŽll get them if you send back MLK, Lennon, Lumumba and Allende.
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You know what? I don't really see the point of this discussion. In all honesty its the type of school discussion that gives education a bad name, ivory tower, good qualifications for hob knobbing in the welfare queue and all that. Why the hell are we being forced to pigeonhole three of eight people who made an undoubted contribution to humanity and say 'oh they didn't really do anything significant'. Pisses me off quite frankly.
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u try to kill people who were Jokers during thier time , u can't reach them now , they won , stop barking under the table ...Shine On ......
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ironically, i think some people are reading too much into this. as it's been said, perhaps the question was written poorly. it does not seem like it's like this: you've got a gun in your hand, these eight men are in front of you, shoot three and watch them die!!! it's to pick which three would you say never should have been born. to pick three men (*ahem*) who weren't even on this list is not only jumping on some bandwagon to eliminate today's dictators.

the purpose, i think, was to pick eight men who POSITIVELY contributed to society, and wonder, what would life had been like if (for example) abraham lincoln had never been born. who would've been president then? would we have had a civil war? would the states still have left the union? if so, would they have ever come back? choosing who you think should've (although that sounds bad, like you want it this way, i can't think of a better word to use) never have been born, not who you'd kill.

i think deep got it right when he said its purpose was to evalutate these mens' contributions to society. we had a similar question in a tutor training seminar i went to. instead of specific people, we had random people. there were about eight people we had to choose from, like an HIV+ woman, a war vet who was paralyzed completely, a schizophrenic basketball star, etc. and we had to choose which five we wanted to live with us (like big brother).

we had to carefully analyze it, since we'd be stuck with those people for four months with no outside contact. for example, some chose against the war vet, as they didn't want to be responsible for having to totally take care of him, as there wouldn't be an aide for him. some didn't want a schizophrenic there, in case he had a serious episode. some didn't want the HIV+ woman there, because if she hurt herself (like a cut), people would be reluctant to help her. maybe that's why i interpreted the question as something similar to what i mentioned. maybe i'm wrong. i dunno.
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